• partial_accumen
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    12 days ago

    oh im sure cops would be against it but I bet it would do stellar in a voter referendum.

    Have you seen our voters lately?

    Why not get good cops on your side in getting this in place first and let the actuarial tables be built from those experiences that reflect the system in place?

    • HubertManne
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      12 days ago

      Mainly because good cops won’t likely go for it. This is something that definately needs to be done top down at the government level.

      • partial_accumen
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        12 days ago

        I agree it will be from the top down government level, but why do you think good cops won’t like it?

        • HubertManne
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          12 days ago

          for the same reason any other person would not want to carry insurance if they did not have to. It will cost them money.

          • partial_accumen
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            12 days ago

            I think you missed the part of my post where I communicated the city/department would pay the base premium for the officers. So good cops would pay nothing. Only bad cops that got higher rates from judgments against them would have to fork out the overage in premiums to continue practicing law enforcement.

            • HubertManne
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              12 days ago

              I actually do not like that idea. I think its good for all of them to see the line item and be concerned about it growing.

              • partial_accumen
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                12 days ago

                Why would good cops see the line item growing? It would be a static value to the city/department. Only the bad cops would see growing premiums as it relates to judgments against that particular bad cop. Those growing premiums would be paid by the individual bad cop.

                • HubertManne
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                  12 days ago

                  no its just like a house in a flood prone area. if you department and city has a lot of claims yours will be higher than the mayberry cop.

                  • partial_accumen
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                    12 days ago

                    Again, I think you missed this in my prior posts. I addressed this too. If you allow for the float based upon the history of no insurance, its going to bias against insurance at all. Doing what you’re proposing would immediately put good cops and bad cops on the same side against the idea of insurance. I’m not saying its impossible to shove a solution down the throat of someone that wants it, but its much much harder, and sometimes impossible with a particular political climate, especially the one we’re in right now. In short, entrenched interests will fight a solution. Fort the best chance of adoption, you want as many entities on the side of your solution. What your proposing does the opposite of that.