• @[email protected]
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    23 days ago

    It isn’t an “answer” to anything, it is necessary for a feeling of safety and togetherness in certain vulnerable people at certain times. You must get past the fact that you weren’t invited and accept that this is good for some of us. Give in a little, and take in so much more in the long run

    • @[email protected]
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      53 days ago

      Hard to be an ally when you’re excluded. Hard to even want to be an ally when you’re told you’re part of the problem.

      • Rob T Firefly
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        It’s terribly easy to be an ally when you’re excluded. Helping people to have the space and community they need can be an incredible act of allyship, even (perhaps especially) when that space and community is not also for you.

      • @MothmanDelorian
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        33 days ago

        Im a guy. Im excluded from mothers groups. Is that really a bad thing when I can’t offer the group anything as Im not a mother?

        • @[email protected]
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          13 days ago

          I think you as a father could probably learn a lot from mothers, so yeah it’s kind of fucked up to be excluded.

          • @MothmanDelorian
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            23 days ago

            I have no kids. If the purpose of the mother’s group is for mothers to share their problems then I have nothing to offer.

              • @MothmanDelorian
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                33 days ago

                I don’t think I have anything to offer which is why me not being included is fine. That’s the whole point.

                • @qarbone
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                  02 days ago

                  Idk if even they have understood the position they’re taking.

                  Their “Why should I be barred from taking advantage of anything that might benefit me?”

                  vs

                  Your “I am have nothing to give and no way to meaningfully help, so I’ll stay out.”

                  Is very telling.

      • @[email protected]
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        13 days ago

        You’re not excluded, you’re just not included. You’re not meant to be part of everything in society, that doesn’t make you an enemy. Try getting over it and being an ally regardless

        • @[email protected]
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          23 days ago

          I’m doing my thing and preparing, Ive got a nice little circle around me. Unfortunately a lot of people are hung up on identity politics instead of actually organizing and putting in work.

          I’m an accomplice, not an ally. Too bad too many people are stuck on themselves to figure it out.