It was all fun and games two years ago when most AI videos were obvious (6 fingers, 7 fingers, etc.).

But things are getting out of hand. I am at a point I’m questioning if Lemmy, Reddit, Youtube comments etc. are even real. I wouldn’t even be suprised if I was playing Overwatch 5v5 with 9 AIs while three of them are programmed to act like kids, 4 being non toxic etc…

This whole place could just be an illusion.

I can’t prove it. Its really less fun now.

The upside is I go to the gym more frequently and just hang out with people I know are 100% real. Nothing worse than having a conversation with AI person. It was just an average 7/10 like I am an average 5/10 so I thought it could be a real thing but turned out I was chatting with AI. A 7/10 AI. The creator made the person less perfect looking to make it more realistic.

Nice. What is the point of internet when everything is fake but can’t even or only be identified as fake with deep research.

I’m 32 and I know many young people who also hate it. To be fair I only know people who hate on AI nowadays. This has to end.

  • Lvxferre [he/him]
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    OP, I fed your post into a bot. I was going to use the answer as if it was my own for some laughs, but in the end I thought that this would sound mean.

    bot answer if anyone is interested

    Your reflections on the current state of AI and its impact on online interactions resonate with many who share similar concerns. The rapid advancement of AI technology has indeed blurred the lines between genuine human interaction and artificial simulations, leading to a sense of disillusionment for some.

    It’s understandable to feel uneasy when the authenticity of online conversations is called into question. The proliferation of AI-generated content can create an environment where trust is eroded, making it difficult to discern what is real and what is not. This uncertainty can detract from the enjoyment of online platforms that were once seen as spaces for genuine connection and expression.

    However, your decision to engage more with real-life interactions, like going to the gym and spending time with friends, is a positive response to this challenge. It highlights the importance of human connection in an increasingly digital world. While AI can enhance certain aspects of our lives, it cannot replace the depth and richness of authentic human relationships.

    As for the broader implications of AI in our lives, it’s crucial to foster discussions about its ethical use and the potential consequences of its integration into our daily experiences. Encouraging transparency and critical thinking about the content we consume can help mitigate some of the concerns you’ve raised.

    Ultimately, while the landscape of online interaction may be changing, the value of genuine human connection remains irreplaceable. It’s essential to find a balance that allows us to enjoy the benefits of technology while still prioritizing real-world relationships and experiences. Your perspective is a reminder that, amidst the complexities of the digital age, the human element should always be at the forefront.

    To the point. Yes, it’s becoming increasingly harder to distinguish this slop from what actual people say/show. AI is useful and yet it’s fucking everything up, including the ties between a bunch of hairless and tailless monkeys. In Lemmy at least we know that bots aren’t that much of an issue than in megacorpo social media, but… yeah, there’s always that gut feeling that it’s all bots, no humans, dead internet.

    Youtube comments are likely real because they’re stupid. At least there’s that, uh.

    What perhaps we (at least you and me) need, and I really want, is an internet 2.0, in parallel with the current one. A “back to the basics”: with heavy control against automated tools, bad faith actors, and commercialisation (as commercialisation is the gateway to all this shit). Perhaps we’re going to see it one day, dunno.

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      To be honest, it’s already there. We have the small web, people keep blogging, writing into forums. We have Gemini if you want an entirely different protocol… You have to stay away from commercial websites and social media. But other than that, I don’t think we have to wait for anything to happen. It’s there. But with that said, people might need to re-learn how to use the internet. Since usage really has changed. You can’t expect to find it on social media while doomscrolling. The “back to the basics” is: You put in some effort to find nice blogs of interesting people. Install an RSS reader. Find a forum or a place like this one where you fit, and that’s filled with humans. That’s some effort. But that’s how people did it back in the days.

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        There are steps in this direction, like the kitten application. But what we have now is still not a “new” internet; it’s a bunch of fragments, scattered across the old, commercially-driven and corporation-controlled, internet.

        For example. The old style forums are still there, I use a few of them… hosted by CloudFlare, sending data to Google, with a “follow us in Facebook” link. Remove CloudFlare from the equation and LLM training bots will DDoS them into oblivion; remove Google and they get no ad bucks; remove Facebook and they get even less exposure than before.

        I got a Substack blog nobody reads. I’m considering to close it down given that Substack is nowadays full of Nazi. Substack is built over that corporate internet, that has no protection against bad faith actors whatsoever.

        The first time I started Kristall (Gemini browser), I found a blank screen. Without websearch engines like DuckDuckGo (most people would use Google), I would never find an aggregator like gemini://gemini.circumlunar.space/capcom/

        I guess that there’s NeoCities? Considerably less commercial than modern sites; but it’s no internet 2.0, it’s an attempt to relive a past long gone.

        In a sense the Fediverse is part of a new internet. It allows you to self-host, and it’s all about users banding together to control their social media. Sharing links of the new web under HTTPS, buying domain names from corporations, with admins in a constant struggle to keep spammers at bay.

        What I think that we need is something more unified than that. It’s like kitten and Gemini and the Fediverse at the same time. It’s hard to explain, but it’s direct connections in a corporate-hostile environment, where you can simply isolate bad faith actors and they won’t haunt you again. Self-hosted by amateurs, for amateurs.

        Sorry if this sounds like rambling. It is, a bit. But it’s one of those things that I still dream about. It’s how I used to believe that the internet would evolve, back in the 90s. And it didn’t.

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          First of all: what’s “Kitten”?

          And my own take is, it’s constantly evolving. And there are a lot if different use-cases out there. We might not have one specific, hypothetical solution. But similar things might exist. And it’s always also a question of supply and demand.

          I’m always fine with niche solutions. Since I’m not even sure if my interests align with what’s popular with the masses.

          But I think this is likely more a societal issue than a technical one. People want convenience, consume content passively. They want to be inside of filter bubbles and golden cages, with the occasional tickle of disagreeing on emotional things in the comments and siding with other users. What they don’t value is freedom, or privacy, or doing something productive that requires more than 30s of attention. So naturally, we get platforms that cater for that.

          I also think the Fesiverse is a very nice attempt at laying a groundworks for more a more ethical and sustainable communications platform. But it’s far from perfect. And it struggles with a few of the same dynamics that are inevitable with social media.

          I think the internet as is, is a solid choice. It’s been made to connect people (and their computers). And it’s initially been used for that. People put their stuff online because they had something to say, it required effort, so it was more quality content where the effort was justified somehow. Oftentimes it wasn’t with commercial interest, but for fun. And you could tell if something mattered to someone.

          Subsequently, the internet got commercialized, the general public was onboarded. And now we have something that’s just about attention, manipulation, advertising and making money.

          But the technical infrastructure is still basically the same. And we kind of still have net neutrality in a lot of places. Hosting got cheaper, the software and tools are abundant these days…

          But yeah, demand is low, media literacy is low. People have become lazy and careless. And I don’t think there is a good way to change this with regular people, at least not in a grassroots way. I’d be easier to impose that from the top down, with regulation and education. But that’s where large and powerful companies are, and their motivation is in diametrical opposition to that. Plus we’re combatting human psychology here and the way our society works. It’s just a hard problem, so it comes to no surprise to me that we can’t solve it, all we can do is take small steps in the right direction.

          And I just don’t understand some things. Like the Cloudflare thing. I’ve never used Cloudflare. My servers are completely fine without it. And I don’t even get a lot of load by the crawlers, and neither am I paying for the traffic or electricity used by that. All I ever have to do is pay attention to security, since I get a lot of brute-forcing attempts, spam etc. But that’s always been bombarding my servers. And there are lots of better ways to deal with it than tunnelling everything via one large and unappealing company…

    • Snot Flickerman
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      Youtube comments are likely real because they’re stupid. At least there’s that, uh.

      I’m dead, fucking lmao.

      • @[email protected]
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        Let me sum up youtube comments. Video about Albert Einstein - “This man is so underrated…”

        • Snot Flickerman
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          Your username makes me happy and nostalgiac, Blast Hardcheese… I mean FigMcLargeHuge… I mean Bob Johnson.