• wanderingmagus
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    2 days ago

    So you’re saying that the 1965-1970 Delano Grape Strike and subsequent 10-year supermarket grape boycotts were useless and didn’t cause any real change? Or the Montgomery Bus Boycott?

    • MudMan
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      12 days ago

      Had to look up Delano, but I’m not surprised to find that it was apparently not a boycott, but a larger organized, ongoing labor conflict. I knew about Montgomery (which in itself is a crazy sign of cultural imperialism, because I have no business knowing that), and the same applies.

      You can set up a genuine boycott of something as part of a larger set of organized actions, particularly in a local conflict. You can’t rely on consumers worldwide spontaneously abandoning a global oligopoly as a way to enact any meaningful change. At most you’ll get a PR response. At most.

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        12 days ago

        But the boycott is still an important part of the social movement, isn’t it? Even if, as in the Delano Grape Strike, it takes a decade or more to force change, with plenty of activists disappearing, arrested, tortured, or killed.

        • MudMan
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          12 days ago

          That’s a hugely disingenuous counterargument. It doesn’t so much move the goalposts as sets them on fire over a pile of explosives and puts them somewhere in low orbit.

          To that question the genuine answer is “what the OP is proposing is not a boycott”, then.

          None of these “don’t support them with your money” online liberal fantasies are boycotts by the standards you’re setting. If anything, going back to those examples to get a grasp on what an actual boycott looks like in the context of larger action only exposes to what degree this nonsense isn’t that.