Trump is Putin’s bumboy sensual but submissive lover and will pretend to “negotiate” only to hand Ukraine a list of demands written by Putler. And Ukraine doesn’t acquiesce, Trump will do everything he can do block US aid to Ukraine.
Perhaps if I’d written “Putin and Trump are in a loving dom-sub relationship where Trump loves getting directions from his dom on what to do with the US”?
Not all insults are -phobic. I could call you a dog and make it every offensive despite me utterly loving dogs.
There are plenty of ways to word this in a non-phobic, non-sexual way, e.g.: the term “agent”. So you must be adding the sexual wording for another reason and I guess that reason is humor. Except, what is the humorous bit here? Is it possibly the gay bit?
Would you object to “treasonous cunt”? (Keep in mind my English sensibilities are that of the UK more than US.)
I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if you do.
However “agent” doesn’t convey the meaning I wanted. It lacks the emphasis of Putin being the one who asserts the terms.
I’m sorry for enjoying outdated flowery language.
The humorous bit isn’t being gay. It’s “Trump is a piece of pudding and Putin is an actual ruthless KGB trained wily politician who learned during the Soviets and will manipulate Trump easily”.
I apologise for any offense. None was meant. Well, not towards sexual minorities. I meant to imply submissiveness, not homophobia. The problem here is also that some of these terms are okay to use within certain communities but you can’t know whether I frequent or identify with any of them. (Some I do identify with, although not too deeply, but let’s not get into my sexuality/gender it’s no excuse for the language I use.)
Anyway, 100% my bad, youre right, in sentiment at least if not entirely rhetorically.
I’m genuinely asking out of good faith here ; “agent” seems too clinical and without any negative connotation I wish to attach. I understand my choice of insult was in poor taste, so might I as for alternatives? (If you choose not to high-road me for why we should insult Trump and Putin, that is.)
Gay rights and trans rights are human rights and if anyone wants to take them away I’m gonna identify as a problem. But… I’m also sometimes liberal with language. I’m open-minded to improving mine, but also use mine with confidence and sometimes it results in poor choices. Mea culpa.
Thanks for the long explanation! And it’s alright. :) I’m not trying to police language too much–you’ll note that I don’t usually remove four-letter words, unless applied to a fellow commenter. Even in cases where the insult can be used in a gendered way, like “cunt.”
The one you used just hinted at homophobia and I was wondering if there’s bigotry behind it. It appears there’s not, so that’s good.
Trump is Putin’s
bumboysensual but submissive lover and will pretend to “negotiate” only to hand Ukraine a list of demands written by Putler. And Ukraine doesn’t acquiesce, Trump will do everything he can do block US aid to Ukraine.Homophobic slurs are not appreciated here
Would “Trump’s bitch” be better?
Perhaps if I’d written “Putin and Trump are in a loving dom-sub relationship where Trump loves getting directions from his dom on what to do with the US”?
Not all insults are -phobic. I could call you a dog and make it every offensive despite me utterly loving dogs.
But this one is. It’s per definition a derogatory term for a gay man, like the f-word. Or like the n-word for blacks. So cut it.
All right. Seems I’m out of the times with that one.
Duly noted.
There are plenty of ways to word this in a non-phobic, non-sexual way, e.g.: the term “agent”. So you must be adding the sexual wording for another reason and I guess that reason is humor. Except, what is the humorous bit here? Is it possibly the gay bit?
Would you object to “treasonous cunt”? (Keep in mind my English sensibilities are that of the UK more than US.)
I mean I wouldn’t be surprised if you do.
However “agent” doesn’t convey the meaning I wanted. It lacks the emphasis of Putin being the one who asserts the terms.
I’m sorry for enjoying outdated flowery language.
The humorous bit isn’t being gay. It’s “Trump is a piece of pudding and Putin is an actual ruthless KGB trained wily politician who learned during the Soviets and will manipulate Trump easily”.
I apologise for any offense. None was meant. Well, not towards sexual minorities. I meant to imply submissiveness, not homophobia. The problem here is also that some of these terms are okay to use within certain communities but you can’t know whether I frequent or identify with any of them. (Some I do identify with, although not too deeply, but let’s not get into my sexuality/gender it’s no excuse for the language I use.)
Anyway, 100% my bad, youre right, in sentiment at least if not entirely rhetorically.
I’m genuinely asking out of good faith here ; “agent” seems too clinical and without any negative connotation I wish to attach. I understand my choice of insult was in poor taste, so might I as for alternatives? (If you choose not to high-road me for why we should insult Trump and Putin, that is.)
Gay rights and trans rights are human rights and if anyone wants to take them away I’m gonna identify as a problem. But… I’m also sometimes liberal with language. I’m open-minded to improving mine, but also use mine with confidence and sometimes it results in poor choices. Mea culpa.
Thanks for the long explanation! And it’s alright. :) I’m not trying to police language too much–you’ll note that I don’t usually remove four-letter words, unless applied to a fellow commenter. Even in cases where the insult can be used in a gendered way, like “cunt.”
The one you used just hinted at homophobia and I was wondering if there’s bigotry behind it. It appears there’s not, so that’s good.
You didn’t. Fair criticism.
I sure like to think so but we’re all biased.
I find it quite unsettling that you’re getting downvoted.