• macniel
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    66 days ago

    Fuck those descendants of Valinor. What good did they ever done to us?

      • @[email protected]
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        76 days ago

        Actually no. That was done by Valar after an elf refused to give up gems that he only could make that radiant thanks to the light of the trees (after the trees were destroyed by Shelob’s predecessor Ungoliant, who was in pact with Morgoth).

        • @[email protected]
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          36 days ago

          Oh, yeah, you are right!

          They WANTED to use the Silmaril for that, but Fenor refused to give them away.

        • @DogWater
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          5 days ago

          Question since u seem to know stuff about things

          How the fuck was shelob a human magic lady in shadow of war and also bested by a halfling with a short sword in the main books?

          Like she had calibrembors wraith bound and was torturing him when talion hands over the ring at the start of that game…what gives

          If I’m missing something obvious at the end of shadow of war …it’s cuz I haven’t finished it yet I’m like over 3/4ths through it.

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            25 days ago

            I have not played the Shadows-games (well I started Shadow of Mirror but it absolutely didn’t hook me so I left it quickly), so I’m not well-versed in those games’ lore.

            However, I looked it up and it seems the developers made Shelob a Maia like Sauron himself, and Sauron like too she can shapeshift in Shadow.

            On how Samwise was able to defeat her: he used the phial of Galadriel that contained the light of Eärendil’s Star (which is a actually the light of a Silmaril on his forehead) and in Tolkien’s lore light is often detrimental to evil creatures (especially such a powerful and pure light). The light from the phial caused pain to Shelob and Sam wounded her with Sting, an old and powerful elven blade. However, in the end he couldn’t actually overcome her and she defeated herself by trying to crush Sam who simply held Sting upright between himself and her and she lowered herself onto the sword. It is also never told whether she actually died from that wound, she squibbled away and was never mentioned again.

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              15 days ago

              Thank you for this, I definitely forget some details from the movies. I think that light is featured in shadow of war, in the possession of an elf using it to fight nazgul

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                15 days ago

                This is from the book though. I actually had to check the movie scene on YT (I just had a reread and finished last week) and was surprised how accurate it could be (Tolkien’s action scenes were never that detailed but it could have been like this). Although to me it always seemed that in the movie Shelob tried to poke Sam with her stinger like she did with Frodo and read the attempt of crushing sam in the book as happening slower, but that is just interpretation.

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            15 days ago

            How the fuck was shelob a human magic lady in shadow of war

            uhh, yeah thats a strange one. In the books she is “an evil thing in spider-form”.

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              14 days ago

              Okay nice, that actually helps. I haven’t read the books so I didn’t know she was ever more than a big ass arachnid