Summary
Luigi Mangione, charged with the December 2024 murder of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, released his first public statement through a new website launched by his defense team.
He expressed gratitude for widespread support and acknowledged the letters he has received. The website provides case updates and a fundraiser, which has raised over $400,000.
Mangione has gained a following among those frustrated with the U.S. healthcare system. A poll found 41% of voters under 30 viewed the assassination as acceptable.
His next court date is Feb. 21.
Being the devil’s advocate here, but he could have discarded the grey bag and grabbed a black bag with more normal stuff. This image doesn’t quite support the statement. There must be other, more powerful evidence of his innocence.
Nah.
That’s not how this shit works homie.
Luigi doesn’t have to prove his innocence, the prosecutor has to prove he’s guilty beyond reasonable doubt…
Like, you’re literally completey opposite of reality with your statement. So in a way you couldn’t be more wrong
Kinda, there’s a lot more play here than want you two are talking about.
Prosecution has:
Now, He’s innocent until proven guilty, But that is not to say that he doesn’t need to disprove all this mountain of evidence against him if he is going to get off based on evidential findings. You don’t have to prove your innocence, But he’s going to have to Make a shadow of down and face of overwhelming evidence.
But honestly between you me and a couple hundred thousand of our best friends here, I suspect there’s not a chance in hell of him getting off in that way. It’s going to be jury nullification or something spectacular, or he’s getting life.
Shadow of a Down is my trip hop SOAD cover band.
Most of that just shows he was in NYC at the time. The dude is a bi kid that was estranged from his family. His family was trying to get in touch with him for nearly a year, and apparently he’s been living as a drifter in that time. His family is also very wealthy and has the resources to track him down. Is it not possible that he was just trying to hide from his family? Maybe he’s a queer kid and his family rejected that, and he’s broken contact with them. Traveling via a fake ID is a minor crime, but it doesn’t prove that he’s a murderer.
Equally plausible is that the police started putting on the media photos of every person that vaguely resembles the shooter that they could. Luigi saw his own picture on the news, and rightfully freaked the fuck out and decided to flee the city. And the online manifesto? Again, millions of people have written things that could similarly damn them.
Remember, the killer deliberately dressed in an outfit that hundreds of men are wearing in NYC at any given time. Unless you have a continuous video of Luigi going from the hostel, to the crime scene, shooting the guy, then leaving…you don’t actually have much. Yes, I think the police can prove quite easily that Luigi was in the city, and that he was there on a fake ID. But they have precious little actually linking him directly to the crime.
You seem to be under the impression that this trial is going to be fair in any way. It’s a jury trial where the defendant is forbidden from talking to the press while the news media does its best to slander him to the public whenever the case is mentioned. Yes, in an ideal world you’d be right, but the people that need convincing of his guilt are going into the trial with their opinions half-formed against him and I guarantee you that the prosecution will veto any juror that seems like they understand proper standards for evidence.
The burden of proof is on the prosecution in America.
incorrect it is on the defense
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Burden_of_proof_(law)
even wikipedia has it wrong
in the United States it is on the defense to pay for and to provide evidence because the prosecutor makes up anything they want along with whatever the jackboots in the case states happens with the judge going along with it in complicity and the defendant is presumed guilty throughout the entire process and even if the defendant proves their innocence the claim may not be dismissed
Lol …
I’ve never seen someone post a source showing they’re wrong…
Then saying “even that source is wrong, and I’m still right”.
Like, did you search for anything that agrees with you and then just give up but thought people would just up ote a source?
Haven’t argued with many MAGAts have you? I had an anti-vaxxer do that numerous times because he couldn’t understand math. That precluded him from understanding that his source didn’t support his argument, but he was still posting sources saying he was wrong.
Why would I?
They want an argument, they want to be “challenged” and to “fight the good fight”.
If rational people argue with them, it raises their group cohesion and they all circlejerk about it later.
If rational people do the rational thing and do t engage with them they still need those arguments. So instead of circle jerking with each other, they have to argue with each other. Which fractures their group.
Please be a rational person and stop being the punching bag of the right.
You’ll never change their minds with facts and logic. All you’re doing is reinforcing their beliefs
Just felt like repeating this. It sums up my opinion so nicely. Most of the time, I won’t even give MAGAts the satisfaction of a downvote.
For the MAGAt I referenced above, I’m well aware of that. When I argue with them, it’s not to convince them. It’s to make sure there are facts rebutting their crazy right alongside that crazy. The craziest thing is that there are true undecideds. Those are the people that might be swayed by the crazy bullshit. My hope is that my information is a solid counter to that crazy.
Well, objectively it’s wrong, especially if you’re talking about doing it on Twitter or Facebook.
Yeah I mean maybe he missed the sarcasm tag? Either way, we all know the system isn’t fair…except for maybe that first poster about probing innocence.
Verdant is satire. It’s confusing because it feels like a continuation from the guy who was simply wrong, but it’s a different person.
The claimant would be the prosecution.
They have made a claim that he killed someone.
Oh, it’s you, again. I didn’t look at the username when I saw this mindless post. As ever.
That’s not how the justice system is supposed to work.
Bruh… Its not about the backpack, its not the same face, at all… Eyebrows and color skin are completly different. And on the full body pic of the suspect we Can see the suspect IS way smaller than Luigi…
Lighting changes skin tone a lot, and jackets cover up the build of the body. I’m not saying for sure it is him, but I also am not sure this disproves it being him.
So do image processors and different camera sensors.
Is there reasonable doubt it could be him?
Based on the evidence we’ve seen, yes, there is a reasonable doubt.
But we are the public, not the judge and jury. We are not being presented with the full testimony and evidence.
That depends on the whole body of evidence, which we haven’t seen yet
WTF?!? Its like saying Jacky Chan looks like Bruce Lee… We may not see much, but the upper face is clearly different, except if you are blind, there should be any doubt. The suspect is clearly Irish like (North Europe) while Luigi is clearly italian like (South Europe)…
Ironically it does seems that american are dumb enough to believe this shit… US is fucked up…
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Look at the jackets. The suspect has a jacket that has a hood made of the same material and appears in this image to be a pullover. Luigi has a hood that is a different material than jacket and appears to be a zip up.
If he’s going to change his backpack, why not change his coat and scarf as well?
The coat is clearly a different color, has a different sewn pattern on the hood, and different pockets.