Not really, anecdotal evidence would be “I used to flush flushable wipes and my toiled got clogged”. Which wouldn’t be entirely worthless, but even assuming good faith it could have been a coincidence, so not worth a whole lot either.
Quoting a plumber, who’d be qualified on the subject, is an argument of authority. It’s a bit more reliable as long as you recognize the authority of plumbers over all things plumbing. There’s also room for error through misquoting, and of course like for all arguments, it could be a plain lie. But
This statement seems simple enough to not be easily misquoted.
The stakes of this conversation are pretty low, so unless we’re dealing with a compulsive liar, there’s not much point in lying.
I’d give this a solid 76% reliable. If I had some wipes I intended to flush, after reading that I’d probably look for more sources online to confirm before I do.
It’s anecdotal because some rando on the internet is saying it. They didn’t quote a plumber, they said some plumbers they talked to said a thing. That’s worthless.
Relaying professional advice doesn’t really make it my advice, but you have a good day. Have fun arguing with strangers on the Internet, I’m gonna go have some fun.
You never mentioned anything about a professional in your first comment… so no you weren’t sharing professional advice, you were providing your quite uneducated opinion. Sounds like you just didn’t like that you were told wrong by someone and are now lying to safe face.
People are so strange.
I wasn’t arguing, I was providing advice just like you were, you really are a hypocrite and can’t see the irony here can you…? You turned it into an argument after, I can provide proof that they’re sceptic safe, but most people have sewer systems and it’s not gonna be easy to explain the difference to people with your attitude.
If you don’t have a sceptic system, of course thee advice YOU receive will be for your sewer system. A plumber isn’t gonna confuse the average home owner by explaining, that yes, there is actually some systems where you can. They just tell you the blanket rule. But then you go and perpetuate that information, without knowing it’s not a gospel rule.
So no, it’s not a lie, it’s for people with sceptic systems so they know THEY can use them, they aren’t for you lmfao.
Just for anyone reading along and thinking it’s safe, there are huge caveats that people are leaving out which is a disservice to our fellow lemmers (lemmyers? Lemmiets? Lemlets?).
Older wastewater systems and even some newer regulated and “up to code” systems do not factor in wipes. They are designed with human waste and toiletpaper ONLY.
Wipe manufacturers categorize and regulate themselves for “flushable”.
You’ll be hard pressed to find anything “Scientific” unless it comes from BIGWIPES tm.
Unless you’ve paid an engineer and state institutions to design and approve a new system which you’ve installed that takes into account the difference in “wipes materials” (of which all those materials need to be regulated as well, state coding approval for all steps of the manufacturing and QA), you’re never going to find any official/professional who would legally make themselves liable for the efficacy of that system by saying “flush wipes”.
Beyond that, go dig up and open your septic tank lid. Every single one I’ve exposed has wipes in it. “But they used the wrong wipes”, yeah… but you can’t use the wrong toilet paper. No one is going to say use wipes because they know the result will be people using shitty wipes eventually (or the manufacturer changes its product).
Flushable doesn’t mean it’s biodegradable. Biodegradable doesn’t mean it’s meant to break down in a septic tank. Even it breaks down is a huge connotation on time/material and if it’s even processable or just sits there till it has to get pumped, meaning more expensive pumps, more often (your septic tank just becomes a “big wipes bin” that you have to pay to have removed).
I mean the whole “Septic Tank” debate itself is fucking hilarious. You’re just saying “it’s safe!”, how many gallons is the tank rated for? How many occupants are using the system? Is there any type of effluent filter or pump? What kind of drop do your pipes have? How many wipes are you using per flush? It’s such a ridiculous thing to just hand wave, sure you flush your shit and someone said, “go ahead! (extra pump$ for me!)”. Drop your scientific shit articles (well it’s about poop and flushing after all), I need something to read on the shitter anyways.
Some are septic safe while they don’t really break down in a sewer. It’s buyer beware, know your shit, literally.
Every plumber I’ve spoken with said that “flushable” wipes are 100% bullshit and to never flush them.
This is called anecdotal evidence, and is veridically worthless.
Expert advice is perfectly relevant but if you prefer you can soak a clean wipe in a bucket and some clean tp in another.
You will shortly prove to yourself why you don’t flush wipes
Let’s put it this way. TP is okay because it dissolves in water.
Wet wipes are wet. Just get a bidet. Bidet + TP is cheaper AND better than wet wipes anyway, while being basically the same thing.
I’m not putting clean drinking water up my ass unless I’m gonna drink it later
You drinking it later is on you.
in me. that’s the point.
you need brawndo
Not really, anecdotal evidence would be “I used to flush flushable wipes and my toiled got clogged”. Which wouldn’t be entirely worthless, but even assuming good faith it could have been a coincidence, so not worth a whole lot either.
Quoting a plumber, who’d be qualified on the subject, is an argument of authority. It’s a bit more reliable as long as you recognize the authority of plumbers over all things plumbing. There’s also room for error through misquoting, and of course like for all arguments, it could be a plain lie. But
I’d give this a solid 76% reliable. If I had some wipes I intended to flush, after reading that I’d probably look for more sources online to confirm before I do.
It’s anecdotal because some rando on the internet is saying it. They didn’t quote a plumber, they said some plumbers they talked to said a thing. That’s worthless.
Kinda funny how you’re only applying that logic to that one specific comment.
You would know if you had a sceptic system, people with sceptic systems are safe to use them.
It’s not a blanket rule dude.
Yeah I’m gonna go ahead with the multiple professionals who have advised against it over some random person on the Internet, thanks!
Says the random person on the internet giving advise themself? Lmfao. The irony.
Relaying professional advice doesn’t really make it my advice, but you have a good day. Have fun arguing with strangers on the Internet, I’m gonna go have some fun.
You never mentioned anything about a professional in your first comment… so no you weren’t sharing professional advice, you were providing your quite uneducated opinion. Sounds like you just didn’t like that you were told wrong by someone and are now lying to safe face.
People are so strange.
I wasn’t arguing, I was providing advice just like you were, you really are a hypocrite and can’t see the irony here can you…? You turned it into an argument after, I can provide proof that they’re sceptic safe, but most people have sewer systems and it’s not gonna be easy to explain the difference to people with your attitude.
If you don’t have a sceptic system, of course thee advice YOU receive will be for your sewer system. A plumber isn’t gonna confuse the average home owner by explaining, that yes, there is actually some systems where you can. They just tell you the blanket rule. But then you go and perpetuate that information, without knowing it’s not a gospel rule.
So no, it’s not a lie, it’s for people with sceptic systems so they know THEY can use them, they aren’t for you lmfao.
It’s septic tank not sceptic. I try not to be a dick but you wrote it so many times.
Just for anyone reading along and thinking it’s safe, there are huge caveats that people are leaving out which is a disservice to our fellow lemmers (lemmyers? Lemmiets? Lemlets?).
Older wastewater systems and even some newer regulated and “up to code” systems do not factor in wipes. They are designed with human waste and toiletpaper ONLY.
Wipe manufacturers categorize and regulate themselves for “flushable”.
You’ll be hard pressed to find anything “Scientific” unless it comes from BIGWIPES tm.
Unless you’ve paid an engineer and state institutions to design and approve a new system which you’ve installed that takes into account the difference in “wipes materials” (of which all those materials need to be regulated as well, state coding approval for all steps of the manufacturing and QA), you’re never going to find any official/professional who would legally make themselves liable for the efficacy of that system by saying “flush wipes”.
Beyond that, go dig up and open your septic tank lid. Every single one I’ve exposed has wipes in it. “But they used the wrong wipes”, yeah… but you can’t use the wrong toilet paper. No one is going to say use wipes because they know the result will be people using shitty wipes eventually (or the manufacturer changes its product).
Flushable doesn’t mean it’s biodegradable. Biodegradable doesn’t mean it’s meant to break down in a septic tank. Even it breaks down is a huge connotation on time/material and if it’s even processable or just sits there till it has to get pumped, meaning more expensive pumps, more often (your septic tank just becomes a “big wipes bin” that you have to pay to have removed).
I mean the whole “Septic Tank” debate itself is fucking hilarious. You’re just saying “it’s safe!”, how many gallons is the tank rated for? How many occupants are using the system? Is there any type of effluent filter or pump? What kind of drop do your pipes have? How many wipes are you using per flush? It’s such a ridiculous thing to just hand wave, sure you flush your shit and someone said, “go ahead! (extra pump$ for me!)”. Drop your scientific shit articles (well it’s about poop and flushing after all), I need something to read on the shitter anyways.
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