We’re living in 2025, civilization is globalized, most of the world has easy access to electricity and can work even during night. We don’t need two separate 12-hour cycles to separate daytime and nighttime for <insert your local area>. Let’s move on and use a proper time format.
And a personal pet peeve, please never call it “military time” - that illogical and ugly bastardization of ISO8601.
I mean, the more common name is “24-hour clock”, ISO8601 is the standard defining it. Just like it (finally?) has become commonplace to just say “WiFi 6” instead of saying " IEEE 802.11ax".
I was just kidding. I know that no one uses that in common conversation, but it’d be funny of everyone went around saying the standard by its identifier.
There is actually a correct answer here, which is that 12:00 AM is midnight. It’s really stupid because we should just call it 0 AM, but I think it’s because they didn’t really have the concept of zero as a number back when this stuff was decided, and we’ve carried this stupid legacy system with us since then
It’s disputed, that’s why it’s a good argument question. Most style guides say it’s midnight or recommend staying away from it. Just use a 24-hour clock.
There are so many things that we assume are unambiguous that aren’t. Like, my favourite argument starter is asking if 12 AM is midnight or midday.
24 hour clock all day every day
If someone asked me that, I would say that i don’t care, because I use the 24 hour clock.
Fair. I actually get actively mad when stuff puts me on a 12-hour clock.
We’re living in 2025, civilization is globalized, most of the world has easy access to electricity and can work even during night. We don’t need two separate 12-hour cycles to separate daytime and nighttime for <insert your local area>. Let’s move on and use a proper time format.
And a personal pet peeve, please never call it “military time” - that illogical and ugly bastardization of ISO8601.
Ah yes, ISO8601. Just rolls of the tongue, doesn’t it?
I mean, the more common name is “24-hour clock”, ISO8601 is the standard defining it. Just like it (finally?) has become commonplace to just say “WiFi 6” instead of saying " IEEE 802.11ax".
I was just kidding. I know that no one uses that in common conversation, but it’d be funny of everyone went around saying the standard by its identifier.
12am is midnight. Maybe not everyone knows it but it is defined.
There is actually a correct answer here, which is that 12:00 AM is midnight. It’s really stupid because we should just call it 0 AM, but I think it’s because they didn’t really have the concept of zero as a number back when this stuff was decided, and we’ve carried this stupid legacy system with us since then
I actually have no idea. Which is it?
It’s midnight, because noon is 12PM.
Which makes no sense either, by the way. “PM” means “post meridiem”, literally “after noon”. It’s not twelve hours after noon at noon.
That logic doesn’t make sense if you do am as well though, since 4 am (ante meridian, before midday) is not 4 hours before midday.
Which further demonstrates that the am/pm system is completely imbecilic
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It’s disputed, that’s why it’s a good argument question. Most style guides say it’s midnight or recommend staying away from it. Just use a 24-hour clock.