• @NOT_RICK
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    203 days ago

    A fusion reactor has already output more power than its inputs 3 years ago. Running a reactor for an extended period of time is still a useful exercise as you need to ensure they can handle operation for long enough to actually be a useful power source.

    • @DarkCloud
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      -393 days ago

      Generating massive amounts of heat and harvesting that and converting it to power are two (or three) different problems.

      • @NOT_RICK
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        193 days ago

        Agreed. But just to go along with the flight analogy proposed earlier, it took hundreds of years from Da Vinci’s flying machine designs to get to one that actually worked.

        • @DarkCloud
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          -343 days ago

          In 1932, Walton produced the first man-made fission by using protons from the accelerator to split lithium into alpha particles.[5]

          We’ve been at this for coming up to 100 years too.

          Let me know when they actually generate power. I don’t want another article about a guy jumping off the eifle tower in a bird suit. A successful flight should be measured by the success of the flight.

          Power generators should be measured by the power generated.

          0 watts. Franz Reichelt went splat on the pavement having proven nothing.

          America, the UK, France, Japan, and no doubt other places have been toying with fusion “power” for 90 years… We’ve created heat and not much else as far as I can tell.

          • @JGrffn
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            173 days ago

            At least learn a little bit about the technology you’re criticizing, such as the difference between fission (aka not fusion) and fusion (aka…fusion), before going on a rant about it saying it’ll never work.

            None of the reactors are being built with output capture in mind at the moment, because output capture is trivial compared to actually having an output, let alone an output that’s greater than the input and which can be sustained. As you’ve clearly learned in this thread, we’re already past having an output, are still testing out ways to have an output greater than an input, with at least one reactor doing so, and we need to tackle the sustained output part, which you’re seeing how it’s actively progressing in real time. Getting the energy is the same it’s always been: putting steam through a turbine.

            Fission is what nuclear reactors do, it has been used in the entire world, it’s being phased out by tons of countries due to the people’s ignorance of the technology as well as fearmongering from parties with a vested interest in seeing nuclear fail, is still safer than any other energy generation method, and would realistically solve our short term issues alongside renewables while we figure out fusion…but as I said, stupid, ignorant people keep talking shit about it and getting it shit down…remind you of anyone?

          • @NOT_RICK
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            3 days ago

            Fission isn’t fusion, the first artificial fusion was two years later in 1934. That gives us a mere 332 years to beat the time from Da Vinci’s first design to the Wrights’ first flight

            0 watts. Franz Reichelt went splat on the pavement having proven nothing

            He demonstrated pretty clearly his idea didn’t work.