No one is censoring you, they’re disagreeing with you. There’s a big difference.
Censorship is when people in charge take books out of the library because they don’t want black kids or gay kids to have positive role models. It’s when people are put in prison for protesting climate change. That’s censorship, when people in power prevent things from getting said.
No one is preventing you from hating on people you don’t understand online, they’re just disagreeing and arguing against you. That’s two sides, neither being censored. You are not a victim. You are just getting push back that you don’t like against views that other people see as unkind.
I also don’t believe that disagreeing with you is some form of mind control. But I’m not you, and maybe people disagreeing with you and telling you that you have nasty views is causing you to rethink everything and make you less certain that hating on trans kids on social media is making the world a better place for anyone including the kids themselves, but you aren’t showing any signs of that, so I guess the mind control thing you’re pretending to worry about isn’t any more real than the censorship you’re claiming is happening.
On these very forums, we’re not allowed to say we think trans women aren’t the same as actual women.
There’s no shame in mentioning this fact. I’m also not a right-winger. Good job proving my point that we’re either with you or against you and you’re trying to control what people think through censorship.
If we have rules against saying things like that which hurt some community members I think it’s okay for mods to remove them. If people want to say that sort of thing they can create their own instances and/or communities which those people negatively affected can avoid there would be nobody to remove them. That’s one of the beauties of Lemmy.
Also if somebody is really of that opinion then maybe they should rethink their definition of “actual women”.
I mean the statement just seems unnecessary and/or badly defined. A sub-category of a categorization is expected to fulfill the qualifications of the category it is a part of. Trans women are women, cis women are women. Both cis and trans women can be regular or irregular depending on how you define the term because there is no fixed definition.
This is what drives people further to the right. We’re not allowed to disagree with the trans agenda or have our own views on the matter.
“Ya know I stood for things like labor rights, marriage equality, women’s rights, and then I was told to respect people and stand up for their civil liberties and then I became more and more right wing, and abandoned all previous morals and ethics because someone said something mean to me online a few too many times.”
If I changed my mind on shit because someone was rude I’d never have a firm opinion on anything.
“People are being hurt and we need to do something.”
“I don’t wanna, inconveniences me.”
“Then you’re not helpful, you’re at best not helping victims, at worst aiding in prolonging their pain.”
“Now you’ve lost me as an ally!”
Go bother someone else you can grift into thinking “the left got too crazy for me, so i left the left” as you claim you got cancelled and blacklisted as you make hundreds of thousands on right wing media.
You’re either with them, or against them.
If you don’t give 110% support to the trans agenda, then they will immediately assume you’re Ron DeSantis.
Existing is not an agenda.
Right. Trying to control what people think and censoring anyone who disagrees is an agenda, though.
No one is censoring you, they’re disagreeing with you. There’s a big difference.
Censorship is when people in charge take books out of the library because they don’t want black kids or gay kids to have positive role models. It’s when people are put in prison for protesting climate change. That’s censorship, when people in power prevent things from getting said.
No one is preventing you from hating on people you don’t understand online, they’re just disagreeing and arguing against you. That’s two sides, neither being censored. You are not a victim. You are just getting push back that you don’t like against views that other people see as unkind.
I also don’t believe that disagreeing with you is some form of mind control. But I’m not you, and maybe people disagreeing with you and telling you that you have nasty views is causing you to rethink everything and make you less certain that hating on trans kids on social media is making the world a better place for anyone including the kids themselves, but you aren’t showing any signs of that, so I guess the mind control thing you’re pretending to worry about isn’t any more real than the censorship you’re claiming is happening.
Completely false. On these very forums, we’re not allowed to say we think trans women aren’t the same as actual women.
Yet here you are, saying exactly that.
Not quite.
You must be fun at parties.
I’m a riot.
You’re literally saying it on this forum.
There’s no shame in mentioning this fact. I’m also not a right-winger. Good job proving my point that we’re either with you or against you and you’re trying to control what people think through censorship.
If we have rules against saying things like that which hurt some community members I think it’s okay for mods to remove them. If people want to say that sort of thing they can create their own instances and/or communities which those people negatively affected can avoid there would be nobody to remove them. That’s one of the beauties of Lemmy.
Also if somebody is really of that opinion then maybe they should rethink their definition of “actual women”.
They don’t have a definition of “actual women,” because every one they can give has to come with massive “exception to the rule” issues.
Anybody can say anything hurts them.
I’m hurt every time I see people say there’s no difference between trans women and regular women. Should mods remove those posts now?
I mean the statement just seems unnecessary and/or badly defined. A sub-category of a categorization is expected to fulfill the qualifications of the category it is a part of. Trans women are women, cis women are women. Both cis and trans women can be regular or irregular depending on how you define the term because there is no fixed definition.
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You seem to be the one trying to control what people think…
Correct, you help people who are being attacked, or you do nothing when they are being attacked.
I rest my case.
This is what drives people further to the right. We’re not allowed to disagree with the trans agenda or have our own views on the matter.
You’re doing more harm than good when you try to control what people think.
“Ya know I stood for things like labor rights, marriage equality, women’s rights, and then I was told to respect people and stand up for their civil liberties and then I became more and more right wing, and abandoned all previous morals and ethics because someone said something mean to me online a few too many times.”
If I changed my mind on shit because someone was rude I’d never have a firm opinion on anything.
It’s not about being mean.
You literally will go out of your way to make sure people can’t share ideas that go against the trans agenda.
Like it or not, this will cause rational people to abandon your cause altogether because you’re trying to manipulate them into agreeing with you.
“People are being hurt and we need to do something.”
“I don’t wanna, inconveniences me.”
“Then you’re not helpful, you’re at best not helping victims, at worst aiding in prolonging their pain.”
“Now you’ve lost me as an ally!”
Go bother someone else you can grift into thinking “the left got too crazy for me, so i left the left” as you claim you got cancelled and blacklisted as you make hundreds of thousands on right wing media.
Yeah, now you’re just playing leapfrog with yourself.
Thanks for proving my point.
I dont think going further to the right will stop people from going further right
I have seen similar arguments from people like this again and again. “You’re driving people to the right with your left-wing ideas!”
What?