• Bobr
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    -55 hours ago

    Turning a country into a prison that people desperately try to escape by crossing the border through rivers/mountains (and often die trying), or by going to the “aggressor” controlled territories (remind me please, how many Poles or even better Jews were escaping their countries and fleeing to Germany during WW2 because it was safer there for them?) and people getting kidnapped, beaten, held in basemenets for days, tortured and even killed by the brave “recruitment officers” of Zelensky’s regime seems like good enough reason for me.

    • @[email protected]
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      23 hours ago

      Especially the last part sounds a lot like propaganda. Do you have any sources on this? Preferably not from media that has ties to Russia.

      • Bobr
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        03 hours ago

        So, the war has been going on for three fucking years already, and you still don’t know what’s actually going on there, all while supporting the regime? Well, I am not surprises even a little bit.

        There are shitton of articles written by western media about the kidnappings, but I am sure they are all sponsored by Russia, right?

        https://www.yahoo.com/news/m-ukrainian-conscription-officer-people-070000956.html?guccounter=1.

        https://unn.ua/en/news/a-lecturer-at-lviv-university-was-found-beaten-and-unconscious-near-kyiv-what-is-known-what-are-the-questions-to-the-tcc

        Here is a library of a fraction of videos about that (obviously faked and sponsored by Russia, because CNN told me Zelensky is good, this cannot be happening): https://uadraftmuseum.ch/incidents

        • @[email protected]
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          132 minutes ago

          Please. I did not pick any sides here with my question. I am not the person your argued with earlier.

          I sure do understand that in a war people are drawn into service against their will, it always has been like that. War sucks, that is out of the question and it surely is not the fault of the nation that is under attack.

          Thanks for your sources. Without sources, anyone can go around and say anything. Especially in this day and age.

          • Bobr
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            110 minutes ago

            it always has been like that.

            People were always hunted down on the streets and packed into vans by masked people (there is an entire new word for that btw, “busification”) with the west cheering the man who does it as a great democratic leader? Huh.

            it surely is not the fault of the nation that is under attack.

            But it is surely the fault of the people being kidnapped, beaten, tortured and killed, right? I mean, you wouldn’t support this happening to innocent people who never wronged you?