“Trumpism is not going to be defeated by inside-the-Beltway politicians,” he said.

  • @givesomefucks
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    New DNC chair seems halfway decent…

    The problem for decades was Obama left the DNC in the hands of bitter neoliberals willing to do anything (including let trump win) to prevent a progressive from making it to the general.

    We don’t need a savior running the dnc, just not a villain.

    And I don’t think Ken Martin is a villain. So I’m being cautiously optimistic about the party while I can. It might not last long, but I’ll take all the silver linings I can get these days

    • @kreskin
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      I’d argue that we need someone in the dnc leadership chair who can effect a culture change and get them representing people again instead of just donors. Thats a heavy lift that few could handle.

      • @givesomefucks
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        I’d argue that we need someone in the dnc leadership chair who can effect a culture change and get them representing people again instead of just donors

        Then I’d advise reading up on Ken Martin…

        The whole “good billionaire” thing is a single quote from a month ago before the chair vote. When he was asked if he’d still accept billionaire money.

        For some reason it’s popped up on Lemmy today.

        Martin has a long history in Minnesota, you don’t have to rely on hypotheticals for what kind of party leader he’ll be.

        When he ran Minnesota he did exactly what you said we need.

    • @Ensign_Crab
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      The problem for decades was Obama left the DNC in the hands of bitter neoliberals willing to do anything (including let trump win) to prevent a progressive from making it to the general.

      This problem is ongoing.

    • NoneOfUrBusiness
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      Even if the head is halfway decent, clowns like Jefferies, Schumer and Pelosi aren’t going anywhere. I don’t expect to see the DNC do much better than it already is.

      • @givesomefucks
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        The reason they’re still there is the DNC’s treatment of anyone associated to a primary challenge if a Dem incumbent…

        Without a bitter neoliberal running the DNC, they don’t have that anymore.

        There’s a difference between “the party” and “dem politicians”. Much like trump wants to make himself the R party, those neoliberals want the D party to be them. It’s not.

        • @Ensign_Crab
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          The reason they’re still there is the DNC’s treatment of anyone associated to a primary challenge if a Dem incumbent…

          If a centrist dem incumbent. They were happy to cut Jamaal Bowman and Cori Bush loose with no support.

          • @givesomefucks
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            Welcome to the club lol.

            Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. We’ll find out soon enough what the new DNC is like.

    • @kreskin
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      He looks to be just more of the same to me.

      • @givesomefucks
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        Really?

        Minnesota has been a progressive stronghold, surprising pretty much everyone to be honest…

        And it’s because Ken Martin has spent the last 7 years as the head of the state party

        Can you imagine a neoliberal writing anything like this about a member of The Squad?

        The future of our party depends on leaders like Omar. As someone who worked for the late U.S. Sen. Paul Wellstone, I know he would have been incredibly proud to have her represent Minnesota in the People’s House. As Wellstone said, “If we don’t fight hard enough for the things we stand for, at some point we have to recognize that we don’t really stand for them.” Omar understands this. She fights hard to bring home wins to her community. Because of her advocacy, nearly 30 million kids were fed during the pandemic. Because of her unwavering commitment, she pushed for the boldest climate package possible to deliver the Inflation Reduction Act. And because of her relentless devotion to her district, she has brought back $54 million in federal funding to community-centered programs across the Fifth District.

        Omar is a progressive leader who has built up our party and championed its core priorities, including defending reproductive freedom, lowering health care costs, and ensuring our kids don’t go hungry. That’s why I encourage all DFL primary voters in the Fifth District to cast their vote for her by Aug. 13.

        https://www.startribune.com/state-dfl-chair-omar-is-the-choice-in-the-fifth-district-literally-and-with-good-reason/600382982

        Again, not saying the guy is perfect, but compared to the last 30 years of DNC leadership, I can’t think of someone better than this dude.

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          Omars great, and its great that Martin wrote an endorsement. I worry that DFL is parrelel to good policy but is maybe not where it needs to be philosophically to be effective, much as I liked Waltz as Harris’ running mate. I liked him a lot more than I liked Harris.

          Martin’s DFL is better than the DNC sure, but are they getting it right enough to be the group thats going to save the day if we stand behind them?

          Its become Amy Klobachars pet group. She’s the one sr. senator they have. The same Klobachar who argued in court often to exceed maximum sentences and bragged about it constantly, and was the runner up to be Bidens VP. My Klobachar problem and by extension DFL, is that in her term in office she declined to prosecute every single police corruption and abuse case that hit her desk, including Derek Chauvins murder of George Floyd. Thats just not right, and it stinks of centrist cowardice-- and it should be the end of her leadership potential. What does that failing mean in terms of how progressive she will be? Because in your face, dont-ask-for-permission progressivism for the peoples causes is what we need, not more centrism and fear of being called “soft on crime” or weak on foriegn policy-- which was always Bidens greatest fear-- being called names by republicans. We dont need someone who cowers and fears first and leads second.

          • @grue
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            I know nothing about Martin, but I’ve read enough comments from @givesomefucks to believe that if the guy meets his exacting standards, that’s pretty high praise.

            • @kreskin
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              didnt realize. fair point, @givesomefucks is solid. I’ll do more research.

    • @[email protected]
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      New DNC chair believes in the party being owned by the “good billionaires” as he calls them.

      • @givesomefucks
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        New DNC chair believes in the party being owned by the “good billionaires” as he calls them.

        I’d love a source on that

        • @[email protected]
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          “There are a lot of good billionaires out there that have been with Democrats, who share our values, and we will take their money. But we’re not taking money from those bad billionaires.”

          What a fucking joke.

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          There are a lot of good billionaires out there that have been with Democrats, who share our values, and we will take their money,

          Aka we are going to continue being funded and controlled by billionaires.

          • @givesomefucks
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            But…

            Did he actually say that, and if so can you provide a source?

              • @givesomefucks
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                Thanks, no idea what the other guys problem was…

                Besides, you know, not a single one saying what he said:

                New DNC chair believes in the party being owned by the “good billionaires” as he calls them

                But you did link what originally spiraled in their head to become that.

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              Yes.

              You can actually do the bare minimum of effort yourself and Google the exact quote provided to find a clip on YT or anywhere else where he said that at the DNC forum and watch those words come from his mouth yourself.

              • @givesomefucks
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                New DNC chair believes in the party being owned by the “good billionaires” as he calls them

                Someone link a couple sources were he said the phrase “good billionaires” so at least now I know what confused you.

                And why you won’t actually link anything

                • @[email protected]
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                  Nothing has confused me.

                  And I’m not linking because you have been given enough information to find out for yourself now. I’m not going to wipe your arse for too.

                  • @givesomefucks
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                    New DNC chair believes in the party being owned by the “good billionaires” as he calls them

                    It doesn’t exist…

                    He never said that…

                    Like, do you honestly not understand or is this a bit?