Just wanted to prove that political diversity ain’t dead. Remember, don’t downvote for disagreements.

  • Cowbee [he/they]
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    I don’t understand how the issues of money persist if you can only earn LVs through labor, and can’t be accumulated through Capital ownership. Why would you kill your neighbor?

    • @Nosavingthrow
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      I wouldn’t kill my neighbor? Was that too complicated an example? I think that money, like an axe, is a tool that can be used differently in different contexts. ‘Money’ isn’t the issue. How it’s used is the issue, which is why I think we would invent it. You don’t solve the ‘issues’ of an axe. You don’t solve the ‘issues’ of money. Capitalism uses stand-ins for value to harm people, but I am not convinced it’s an inherent trait of value stand-ins. I think LV’s are money, so I think you think that is true also.

      • Cowbee [he/they]
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        34 hours ago

        I’m asking what’s wrong with money that carries over to LVs. Why is money an issue?

        • @Feathercrown
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          LVs would have their own problems-- if I do work for someone else, can they just create LVs to give to me? Do they get to create however many they want?

          • Cowbee [he/they]
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            The answer is no in both instances, hence why labor vouchers are only sensible in a centralized and publicly owned and planned economy that has gotten rid of the necessity for small commodity producers.

            • @Feathercrown
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              34 minutes ago

              Interesting. That could work. Feels a little draconian though.

                • @Feathercrown
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                  Mostly that the central planning authority gets to decide which work is meaningful enough to get paid for

                  • Cowbee [he/they]
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                    All work would be paid for. Volunteering to help someone out isn’t the same as working a job, and moreover the need to volunteer would be minimized before such a system could take place to begin with.

        • @Nosavingthrow
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          I never claimed there was anything wrong with money? As far as I thought, I was arguing that it was a tool so useful it would be reinvented if a society did away with it.

          • Cowbee [he/they]
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            Sure, but I think it’s an entirely different thing at that point even if it is used for distribution.