• @Buffalox
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    8 hours ago

    That’s an extremely simplistic model, when in reality the way to fascism, is that the democracy fails to protect itself against it.
    This happens easiest in new or flawed democracies, and USA is very much a flawed democracy. Where all the checks and balances don’t work, when the executive branch is filled with corrupt traitors that don’t give a shit about decency or democracy.

    In a democracy the parlament can overthrow the government, and end its control with the equivalent of the executive branch.
    AFAIK congress cannot overthrow a president for being unworthy or acting illegally.

    Americans probably thought they were safe, because they have about 200 years of tradition for democracy, so they thought it was so ingrained that it couldn’t fail, because the country is built on it, and the institutions would protect it.

    • @gAlienLifeform
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      58 hours ago

      in reality the way to fascism, is that the democracy fails to protect itself against it.

      Yeah, uninspiring centrists don’t like to do the whole protecting democracy thing because it might be controversial, so not really seeing your disagreement with this (admittedly simple and meme-ified) model

      USA is very much a flawed democracy. Where all the checks and balances don’t work, when the executive branch is filled with corrupt traitors that don’t give a shit about decency or democracy.

      Couldn’t agree more

      AFAIK congress cannot overthrow a president for being unworthy or acting illegally.

      It’s called impeachment under our system, but I think that’s a lot higher vote threshold than a general no confidence vote like what I think you’re suggesting would be

      And yeah, our legislature being filled with the same kind of corrupt traitors that don’t give a shit about decency or democracy as our executive makes this essentially impossible

      Americans probably thought they were safe, because they have about 200 years of tradition for democracy, so they thought it was so ingrained that it couldn’t fail, because the country is built on it, and the institutions would protect it.

      I would also blame the uninspiring centrists who didn’t want to upset their potential voters by telling them the truth about the dire situation we were/are in. Everytime they brag about some bipartisan legislation like bipartisanship with fascists is a good thing the picture gets muddier for the average voter.

      • @[email protected]
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        26 hours ago

        Our uninspiring centrists also sent Trump a get well card after he was shot. They also were calling him a fascist. They sure seemed comfortable with fascists the whole campaign

    • Billiam
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      AFAIK congress cannot overthrow a president for being unworthy or acting illegally.

      Yes it can- this is literally what the impeachment process is. The problem is what happens when you have a political party that is every bit as guilty and refuses to charge or convict an obviously criminal president.