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- leopardsatemyface
Summary
A new poll found that 71% of Trump voters oppose Medicaid cuts, while 82% of all voters reject them. Additionally, 60% of Trump voters said cutting food and nutrition programs is unacceptable.
Medicaid has become a key issue as House Republicans push for up to $2 trillion in budget cuts to advance Trump’s legislative agenda.
Their resolution directs the House Energy and Commerce Committee to find at least $880 billion in cuts.
This raises concerns that Medicaid, which covers 70 million people—mostly low-income and children—could be targeted despite GOP leaders downplaying benefit reductions.
No, that’s why the dems lost in Nov. Fuck these people, get more people voting and stop chasing the right.
See, absolutely nowhere in any of that did I say “Move your politics right.”
This is a mistake I see a lot of leftists making, and it’s going to be a fatal mistake if it’s not rectified soon.
Dems lose by playing to the centre/right because they move their policies right to appeal to those voters. That’s not remotely similar to what I’m talking about.
You should never compromise. Never. But by being uncompromising, while also being willing to meet people in the places where you share common ground, you can move them left.
That’s exactly why Bernie would have been the right choice, in 2016 and in 2024. Because he’s an uncompromising leftist who understands how to present those leftist ideas outside of just college campuses.
They’re mad about Republicans attacking Medicaid and Social Security. That’s an opportunity to get them thinking about how government programs actually benefit them. They’re mad about the Republicans cutting taxes on the rich at the expense of everyone else. That’s an opportunity to get them thinking about how deeply in thrall to oligarchs the Republicans really are. They’re mad about high grocery prices and stagnant wages. That’s an opportunity to get them thinking about how the government should be focused on helping them out instead of helping Elon Musk out. They’re mad about rich coastal “elites.” That’s an opportunity to get them thinking about how a union would really help them stick it to those elites.
Not all of this will work. But if you’re open to these conversations with enough people, some of it will get through. You have more in common with them than you think.
I’m not asking you to break bread with them, I’m not asking you to be their friend. But if you want to win this fight and save your country, you need everyone you can get on your side.
I feel like there’s a common ground between schadenfreude and outreach to MAGAts that we should find.
You’re right in that this would be the moment that people might change their minds because of the consequences they wrought upon themselves…. But if someone voted for others to get hurt, and instead hurt themselves, there’s humor in that irony.
I agree that we have more in common than not, I point that out to every dipshit I talk to, but the amount of disrespect I’ve personally received when trying to discuss philosophies in good faith is ridiculous, even from family.
Half the time they start shouting angrily and the other half they start gaslighting. It’s truly hard to not outright say “yes you’re a fucking idiot” when someone gets defensive and says “well I guess you think I’m stupid, huh?”
There’s some rage we all collectively need to work through lmao.
I’m not suggesting that all Trump voters are reachable. A lot of them are just straight up bigots and fascists. A lot of them actually want all the vile shit he’s doing. Yes, maybe those ones might have a come to Jesus moment if they realise how much he’s fucking them with his giveaways to the rich, but it’s a harder lift because they’re still getting a lot of the things they want.
The people I’m talking about, the ones primed to turn against him, are the ones who promised themselves that all the vile stuff wouldn’t actually happen, that it was just rhetoric, or smears by the leftist press or whatever. That he wasn’t actually going to start self-destructive trade wars and deport all immigrants, and that he really truly would lower the price of eggs. A sizeable number of those voters do exist, sizeable enough that its worth having them on board.
I’m not saying anyone has to like or forgive any of these people, even the ones who voted out of ignorance or fear. But you need them on your side. You need everyone you can get.
I disagree. A lot of people moved away from kamala because she accepted dick Cheneys endorsement. People don’t go out and vote because the dems are viewed the same as republicans because they do a terrible job of calling the bad people bad people. I have no interest in “winning” the vote of someone that voted for Trump in 2024. Replace that vote with 3 new voters.
There’s a significant number of people who voted for both Trump and AOC.
One of the things a lot of leftists are really struggling to grasp is that a very sizeable proportion of Trump voters view Dick Cheney as the enemy. Not because he endorsed Kamala, but because he’s part of “The establishment.”
These people (and I’m talking about a segment of recent Trump voters here, not all them; there are plenty that are just bigots and fascists) don’t really vote in a way that actually aligns with their political views. They vote against business as usual, and that means they vote for whoever promises to burn it all down. If a firebrand leftist can inspire them, they’ll vote for that firebrand leftist.
That’s a person who can be reached. That’s a person who just needs help developing greater political literacy. The bigots and the fascists can get fucked, don’t waste your time with them.