https://lemmy.world/comment/15319695

I’m guessing they did this because my comment didn’t have the correct positive vibes for them on their post when they’re the moderator.

It’s funny because 196 and almost all of its derivatives are rightfully anti-tankie because tankies promote centrism and conservatism directly harmful to trans and gay rights.

  • _cryptagion [he/him]
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    45 hours ago

    Right, now stop being cute and tell me what those words mean in the context of each other. Define cultural Marxism. If they’re normal words, surely you know what they mean together.

    • @finitebanjoOP
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      -45 hours ago

      Idk how you’re not understanding this. Did you think I was just being dramatic when I said literal and therefor meant metaphorical?

      • archomrade [he/him]
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        15 hours ago

        Marxism is explicitly a materialist worldview - it has no real way of comparing cultural qualities

        Unless you just mean ‘the culture of marxists’, but then you’ve pretty much taken up the term in its original meaning. Especially since the original post is about transgenter identity…

        • @PugJesus
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          34 hours ago

          Marxism is explicitly a materialist worldview - it has no real way of comparing cultural qualities

          Jesus fucking Christ. Every time I think I’ve seen peak tankie stupidity, a new gem emerges.

          • archomrade [he/him]
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            13 hours ago

            The only point in which Marx comments on cultural practices is to point to how it is used to reinforce labor relations with capital.

            If there’s any definitive ‘culture’ to Marx it’s more broadly counter-traditional than anything specific.

            • @PugJesus
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              23 hours ago

              The only point in which Marx comments on cultural practices is to point to how it is used to reinforce labor relations with capital.

              Because 90% of Marx’s writing is about class relations. That’s like saying “The only part where the rock star sings is when the guitar is playing”, no fucking shit.

              If there’s any definitive ‘culture’ to Marx it’s more broadly counter-traditional than anything specific.

              So now we’ve moved on from “it has no real way of comparing cultural qualities because it’s a materialist worldview” to “Marxism doesn’t have a culture”, which isn’t even close to what was said and what I objected to.

              • archomrade [he/him]
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                -13 hours ago

                Because 90% of Marx’s writing is about class relations.

                Yes that’s the point. Marx isn’t concerned with cultural expression outside of how it’s used inside class relations. Which is why it’s inane to point to ‘the culture of marxism’, because outside of that narrow materialist context marxism doesn’t concern itself with culture.

                • @PugJesus
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                  13 hours ago

                  Yes that’s the point. Marx isn’t concerned with cultural expression outside of how it’s used inside class relations. Which is why it’s inane to point to ‘the culture of marxism’, because outside of that narrow materialist context marxism doesn’t concern itself with culture.

                  So now we’ve moved on from “it has no real way of comparing cultural qualities because it’s a materialist worldview” to “Marxism doesn’t have a culture”, which isn’t even close to what was said and what I objected to.

                  • archomrade [he/him]
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                    -13 hours ago

                    Unless you’re planning on articulating what it is you’re actually objecting to I can’t really help you make sense of those two statements.

        • @finitebanjoOP
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          lmfao

          It’s an ideology

          ideologies are inherently culture

            • @finitebanjoOP
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              03 hours ago

              Yes.

              This thumb is a subset of fingers, so when somebody said finger thumbs I didn’t immediately associate that with racist dogwhistles.

              • archomrade [he/him]
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                13 hours ago

                Ideologies are a part of culture, but culture isn’t a part of all ideologies, see?

                “The culture of Marxism” is a misnomer - any distinct ‘culture’ that marxists might share is incidental to what marxism actually is. Suggesting that transgender expression is somehow a distinct feature of a culture ‘of marxism’ is exactly the thing ‘cultural bolshevism’ and ‘cultural marxism’ are pointing to.