I’ve decided to leave Proton after being a user since 2017. Today, I migrated all my services to my new domain, marking the end of my time with Proton. The recent political noise and price point were no longer justifiable for me. It was a good experience while it lasted. Thanks for the fishes 🐟 🐠

  • @TommySoda
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    1324 hours ago

    Any good VPN other than Proton? Almost every one is going down the enshitification route and I’m looking for an alternative.

    • edric
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      3823 hours ago

      I’ve been happy with Mullvad. Good no-log policy, audited regularly, and their servers run on RAM. No port forwarding though, as others mentioned.

    • RayJW
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      1524 hours ago

      I think the most common alternatives I see recommended are Mullvad and IVPN. Both have a great track record, but also both lack port forwarding if that is an essential feature for you.

    • DARbarian
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      1124 hours ago

      I swear by AirVPN. Not the fastest or fanciest, but they’ve got port forwarding and are run by an activist org; I’ve got a lifetime membership IIRC

        • @[email protected]
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          211 hours ago

          Does this affect anyone outside of Italy though? When I recently signed up for it it had a huge warning saying they don’t allow Italian residents to use them, nor do they host any Italian servers, I assume so they don’t have to deal with this law at all

          • ProdigalFrog
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            211 hours ago

            I’m not sure how they would distinguish between the two in practice, surely they would block all piracy attempts, not just the ones going to an Italian IP address? It’s an unknown for now, but I would be hesitant to use them until it’s more clear how this could effect privacy.

      • @PM_Your_Nudes_Please
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        16 hours ago

        PIA is notable for still having port forwarding; Something many other VPNs have ditched. So on that one point, they’re better than others.

        However, 4 or 5 years ago they were bought by a company (Kape Technology, formerly known as Crossrider) that has a history of stuffing adware into their programs. Like their business model was basically:

        1. Buy popular program
        2. Stuff it with adware
        3. Get short term profit off of existing user base
        4. Abandon program after users have fled
        5. Repeat

        Since a VPN provider’s only real source of legitimacy is public trust, the Kape buyout had a lot of customers fleeing to alternatives like Proton. So far, the PIA app has been fine. But Kape could decide at any point to just pump it full of adware and run away with arms full of cash, like they have done in the past. Also, Kape is (or at least was, at the time of the buyout) headed by a known Israeli intelligence agent. So that was another big thing that sent customers scrambling to alternatives.

        • @[email protected]
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          112 hours ago

          Thanks. That is a useful brakedown of them. Using them for the last year with zero issues but always important to evaluate.