• Ulrich
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    12 hours ago

    Currently there are 3 browsers available and one of them is only available on overpriced disposable hardware.

    • @rottingleaf
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      312 hours ago

      If the latter is Safari, then WebKit-based browsers are available for Windows and Unix-likes too.

      Actually WebKit is often used in the same role Gecko would be used, until Mozilla decided they don’t want alternative browsers on Gecko.

      • Krik
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        311 hours ago

        If the latter is Safari, then WebKit-based browsers are available for Windows and Unix-likes too.

        Which are? Please list a few current ones that have reasonable backing and at least a mid-size community.

        • @rottingleaf
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          16 hours ago

          I wasn’t thinking of such and meant vimb or surf.

        • @[email protected]
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          310 hours ago

          Here are two on Linux:

          • GNOME Web (was called Epiphany)
          • Konquerer - KDE

          Those are the two biggest desktops on Linux. In fact, when I run Tauri (like Electron, but uses your system webview instead of bundling it), it uses GNOME Web on my system.

          • Krik
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            010 hours ago

            They still exist? I was under the impression that they are abandoned.

            • @[email protected]
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              They absolutely do. A lot of distros package Firefox or Chromium or something as the default, but those browsers are default for their respective DEs.

              Here are their most recent releases:

              • Konquerer - 24.12.2 2025-02-06
              • GNOME Web - 47.3.1 (Jan 2025)

              They don’t move very fast, but they don’t need to since they just pull in upstream changes. Their main purpose is to provide a default webview and browser, but most people use a different browser for everyday use.

              • @[email protected]
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                18 hours ago

                Konqueror is more or less dead as a browser. I don’t even think kwebkitpart is maintained anymore since QtWebkit was abandoned with Qt6.

                • @[email protected]
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                  It had a release this month, that doesn’t sound dead…

                  But yeah, it’s unfortunate that Qt WebEngine is Chromium based. I get it though, it’s probably less work to maintain and if users complain, you tell them it’s the most popular embedded engine.

                  kwebkitpart

                  Maybe you’re right though, the last commit on master seems to be 2 months ago. I wonder if it’s officially dead or just maintenance only.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    26 hours ago

                    If you look at the kwebkitpart commits, it looks like it’s been nothing but localization for years.