He had a bunch of “Haha, I’m just being a nazi ironically and what even is a nazi, this symbol has lots of other historical usages” incidents, such as paying a foreigner to yell “death to jews” and doing a video where he was wearing a shirt with an iron cross on the collar.
How many years ago was that. It sounds like he apologized and has taken a long break from YouTube and yet here come a bunch of actual screeching fascist saying, “Gross that he uses Linux! Arch is now NaziOS & we want to see him publicly executed still!”
No fascism is when you’re against free speech & constantly advocating violence against non-violent people who have exercised free speech, and then when someone does apologize for speech you didn’t like then 5 years later you’re still trying to censor those people.
Freedom of speech =/= freedom of consequences. If people choose not to associate with you because you support & attempt to normalize a movement that has historically committed mass genocide, or - god forbid - they speak negatively about you in an internet forum 5 years down the line, those people are just exercising their free speech.
Violence against nazis is good. If you are using your massive platform to normalize nazism, free speech doesn’t apply to you and you should be censored. You don’t beat nazis be engaging with them in the marketplace of ideas.
This conversation tells me he hasn’t done enough to tell the nazis and their defenders in his audience to fuck off, and without action his apology is worth fuckall.
Even wearing a swastika or flying a Nazi flag doesn’t mean you’re a murderer or that you intend to murder people. Many modern Nazis don’t believe that 6 million Jews were murdered and that those were facts made up by powerful Jews, so to claim they intend to murder more people because of it is ridiculous when they don’t believe the murder happened. In fact, what I’ve seen recently online is a prevalence of people like yourself (that I’m hopeful are mostly bot accounts) advocating for murdering & being violent against those who appear to be wearing Nazi symbolism or using some Nazi hand gesture, but who are being non-violent.
Everyone, even you, has the potential to become violent. That doesn’t mean people should attack you because you have potential to become violent. That is not how free speech works and is fascist behavior.
This conversation tells me he hasn’t done enough to tell the nazis and their defenders in his audience to fuck off, and without action his apology is worth fuckall.
He literally apologized and took a multi-year break. His content was mostly just video games and at times a little edgy. Regardless, at what point do you decide you can get more accomplished by volunteering and showing people love through kindness. Here you are talking about how violence is good. Should I follow you around the Internet forever now reminding everyone how you think being violent is a good thing, even after you say you are sorry for it and don’t want to hurt people?
When did he apologize? I’d love to see a video where he acknowledges that saying slurs and paying a homeless person to hold a sign that says “kill all Jews” and platforming multiple far right fuckers was wrong
Even wearing a swastika or flying a Nazi flag doesn’t mean you’re a murderer or that you intend to murder people
Are you not familiar with the political program of the nazis? The end result of neonazi’s conspiracies is to justify violence against jews and other minorities.
He literally apologized
The apology and break failed to remove nazis from his community and failed to educate their defenders on how you’re supposed to deal with nazis.
Should I follow you around the Internet forever now reminding everyone how you think being violent is a good thing, even after you say you are sorry for it and don’t want to hurt people?
You are free to tell anyone I speak to that I advocate for punching nazis. But that’s not even what is being argued here, I am saying because he failed to expel nazis from his community and reeducate them after inviting them in, he shouldn’t be given a platform and people who don’t know any better should be reminded that he has failed to correct his mistake beyond some meaningless words.
Care to elaborate? I’m not updated to PewDiePie’s stuff anymore. I’m living under the fucking rock.
He had a bunch of “Haha, I’m just being a nazi ironically and what even is a nazi, this symbol has lots of other historical usages” incidents, such as paying a foreigner to yell “death to jews” and doing a video where he was wearing a shirt with an iron cross on the collar.
He also followed a bunch of white-supremacist accounts (source) and then cried crocodile tears after getting called out
How many years ago was that. It sounds like he apologized and has taken a long break from YouTube and yet here come a bunch of actual screeching fascist saying, “Gross that he uses Linux! Arch is now NaziOS & we want to see him publicly executed still!”
“Fascist hate speech and platforming fascists and inspiring fascist violence doesn’t make you a Nazi, calling people out for it does!”
Fascism is when you don’t engage with nazis and tell others not to engage with nazis.
No fascism is when you’re against free speech & constantly advocating violence against non-violent people who have exercised free speech, and then when someone does apologize for speech you didn’t like then 5 years later you’re still trying to censor those people.
Freedom of speech =/= freedom of consequences. If people choose not to associate with you because you support & attempt to normalize a movement that has historically committed mass genocide, or - god forbid - they speak negatively about you in an internet forum 5 years down the line, those people are just exercising their free speech.
Violence against nazis is good. If you are using your massive platform to normalize nazism, free speech doesn’t apply to you and you should be censored. You don’t beat nazis be engaging with them in the marketplace of ideas.
This conversation tells me he hasn’t done enough to tell the nazis and their defenders in his audience to fuck off, and without action his apology is worth fuckall.
Even wearing a swastika or flying a Nazi flag doesn’t mean you’re a murderer or that you intend to murder people. Many modern Nazis don’t believe that 6 million Jews were murdered and that those were facts made up by powerful Jews, so to claim they intend to murder more people because of it is ridiculous when they don’t believe the murder happened. In fact, what I’ve seen recently online is a prevalence of people like yourself (that I’m hopeful are mostly bot accounts) advocating for murdering & being violent against those who appear to be wearing Nazi symbolism or using some Nazi hand gesture, but who are being non-violent.
Everyone, even you, has the potential to become violent. That doesn’t mean people should attack you because you have potential to become violent. That is not how free speech works and is fascist behavior.
He literally apologized and took a multi-year break. His content was mostly just video games and at times a little edgy. Regardless, at what point do you decide you can get more accomplished by volunteering and showing people love through kindness. Here you are talking about how violence is good. Should I follow you around the Internet forever now reminding everyone how you think being violent is a good thing, even after you say you are sorry for it and don’t want to hurt people?
When did he apologize? I’d love to see a video where he acknowledges that saying slurs and paying a homeless person to hold a sign that says “kill all Jews” and platforming multiple far right fuckers was wrong
Are you not familiar with the political program of the nazis? The end result of neonazi’s conspiracies is to justify violence against jews and other minorities.
The apology and break failed to remove nazis from his community and failed to educate their defenders on how you’re supposed to deal with nazis.
You are free to tell anyone I speak to that I advocate for punching nazis. But that’s not even what is being argued here, I am saying because he failed to expel nazis from his community and reeducate them after inviting them in, he shouldn’t be given a platform and people who don’t know any better should be reminded that he has failed to correct his mistake beyond some meaningless words.
Nobody wants s calling for him to be executed, we just don’t like or support him and are voicing that.
He can apologize all he wants, it won’t change his actions.
Then what is the point on apologising and changing your ways?
What exactly has he done to atone? Simply not saying slurs or making Nazi jokes anymore isn’t enough, that’s the bare minimum.
The point of apologizing and changing your ways is to grow as a person and not cause harm, not to get people to like you.
Sure I stabbed you, but I apologized. No I’m not going to pull the knife out or fix the damage, but I’ve stopped pushing it in further.
https://youtu.be/pnmRYRRDbuw