• @PugJesus
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    482 days ago

    Papers over the many, many things they both were not right about. Clinton especially - whatever bad decisions Harris made, and she certainly made bad decisions, she was also dealt a bad hand. Clinton had a decade of planning and still screwed the pooch.

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      Do you realize that when you criticize Hillary and Kamala for running a “bad” campaign, you’re implying that Trump ran a good one?

      Ya think maybe, just maybe the thing Kamala and Hillary have in common that America rejected is the obvious answer?

      • @PugJesus
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        422 days ago

        Do you realize that when you criticize Hillary and Kamala for running a “bad” campaign, you’re implying that Trump ran a good one?

        No.

        If I play a terrible game of chess, just absolute dogshit, and lose, that doesn’t necessarily mean my opponent played well. They could miss a checkmate 10 times in a row. They could sacrifice their queen for no gain. They could leave themselves open and only be spared by the barest fate of wandering attention failing to see any number of perfect attacks against them.

        Ya think maybe, just maybe the thing Kamala and Hillary have in common that America rejected is the obvious answer?

        Their lack of charisma? A tempting thought, but no. Their moderate politics? A popular position on here, but not really what I’d buy.

        What Kamala and Hillary truly had in common is that they campaigned before an audience of malicious idiots. And malicious idiots always prefer their own.

      • @Eldritch
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        232 days ago

        Do you realize that when you criticize Hillary and Kamala for running a “bad” campaign, you’re implying that Trump ran a good one?

        Literally no. Pug criticizes trump plenty. If there is someone that isn’t doing that it’s them.

        No one is or should be above criticism. No one. But those who only find time to criticize very specific people without balance. Ignoring certain ones that are just as bad or worse should be called out.

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        Both of them decided to have huge rallies in Texas and outright ignored some states like Michigan. Trump actually went there. Lied to their faces like he does to everyone, but still went there. That tells me that whomever has been running the Democratic campaigns are incompetent and don’t realise where you should spend the money in order to win.

        • @[email protected]
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          32 days ago

          Having to pick up from Biden rather last minute kind of screwed that pooch. However I don’t think that particular pooch screwing was the worst part of it.

          The Israel/Gaza thing was a no win situation, The more I look at the situation I think there was some vote rigging in the swing states.

          I’m also not even sure that misogyny didn’t play a large role in it. The amount of bros out there and even blue areas is staggering.

      • missingno
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        42 days ago

        There’s really only one way to measure how successful a campaign is - by how many votes they got. By that measure, Trump’s campaign was better than Hillary’s and Kamala’s.

        The first step to learning from mistakes is to recognize what those mistakes were. If you insist their campaigns were perfect, if you want to do the exact same thing again in 2028, you’ll end up getting the same results.