• @Eheran
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    21 hours ago

    How is he shitting on ukraines people?

    • @[email protected]
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      -1621 hours ago

      Drafting people by force and not allowing males from leaving the country to me enters the definition of being an authoritarian ruler treating people like shit.

      • @[email protected]
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        24 hours ago

        Wartime conscription is hardly the same as full authoritarianism, and taking measures to protect the state that gave him the mandate is far from treating its people like shit.

        There is a grim necessity for authoritarian measures to war. A commander will need to be able to make war decisions without having to wait for some assembly to approve them. A commander will need people to contribute to the war effort. There’s a reason authoritarian factions like military coups and staging wars: It’s far easier to justify such measures while you’re actively at war.

        But that implication doesn’t work the other way. Zelenskyy didn’t start this war. He isn’t persecuting an offensive war for his own ends. He is doing what he must to protect the territory, population and independence of his country. That involves forcing people to participate in the war for the good of all others.

        Is it pretty? No. But neither is running out of troops and having your country taken over by someone who is demonstrably authoritarian even outside of matters of war. I wouldn’t want to be conscripted either, but I accept the necessity.

      • @Eheran
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        721 hours ago

        The alternative is that everyone gets their own Bucha treatment. Easy choice, no?

        • @[email protected]
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          -721 hours ago

          The alternative is that you don’t copy russia and allow these who don’t want to fight to do as they wish.

          • @Eheran
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            214 hours ago

            That is actually what Russia is doing…? They just offer a lot of money to poor people.