Canada does not need to join the EU to increase trade and partnerships. More trade agreements and joint projects. The EU is a complicated political structure and joining it is unnecessarily complicateted.
Absolutely correct. There are plenty of mutually beneficial arrangements short of full membership. And an EU membership application process typically takes decades. We need solutions now.
They don’t need to join it as a full member to have trade and economic benefits. Simple (!) alignment with standards and regulations will allow free access to the market and free movement of people.
Is there any reason to not join the EU if we want to align standards, regulations, and allow free movement?
The only thing I can think of that would be a hard change would be our dollar. We could possibly negotiate to keep that though - I don’t know if the EU is still making exceptions like that or if that was just at the beginning.
Mainly just that we’ll need to align stuff for like a decade before we can do it. Using the Euro and joining the Schengen is non-optional, although it’s one of those EU things where there’s a lot of chaos in actually enforcing that. Speaking of the Schengen, that would mean our own trade deals with the US are definitely dead and the border has to get much more serious, since it’s now the border between the US and every country in Europe.
It would also make Kosovo and Bosnia butthurt if we got in first, so there’s a chance they’d just deny it on geographical grounds - we could qualify as substantially European, but only could.
All in all, I think it’s a great aspirational goal, at least, because “substantially align regulations on control of tomato leaf miner pests” isn’t quite so catchy.
The EU and US standards are very different and products for one can’t necessarily be shipped to the other and vice versa. Examples for food include massive differences for colourings, preservatives and the like. Europe will not accept chicken washed in chlorinated water or bright froot loops. Health traffic lights are also going to be different.
While it’s possible to have 2 production lines, 1 for each economic zone, that’s expensive for producers and shippers.
Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure that Canada’s food standards with regards to dyes and preservatives are already far closer to the EU standard than the American.
I don’t think anyone in this picture seriously expects Canada to officially join the EU. The US would never allow such an interference with its manifest destiny. But we can make a close partnership even closer.
Unpopular take maybe…
Canada does not need to join the EU to increase trade and partnerships. More trade agreements and joint projects. The EU is a complicated political structure and joining it is unnecessarily complicateted.
And yet another Reddit staple arrives: The popular unpopular take.
Absolutely correct. There are plenty of mutually beneficial arrangements short of full membership. And an EU membership application process typically takes decades. We need solutions now.
Whatever you guys wanna do. I support canada being eu but if yall dont want it trade agreements is also good.
Trade agreements now, possible membership eventually, since that’s how long the process usually takes anyway.
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They don’t need to join it as a full member to have trade and economic benefits. Simple (!) alignment with standards and regulations will allow free access to the market and free movement of people.
Is there any reason to not join the EU if we want to align standards, regulations, and allow free movement?
The only thing I can think of that would be a hard change would be our dollar. We could possibly negotiate to keep that though - I don’t know if the EU is still making exceptions like that or if that was just at the beginning.
Mainly just that we’ll need to align stuff for like a decade before we can do it. Using the Euro and joining the Schengen is non-optional, although it’s one of those EU things where there’s a lot of chaos in actually enforcing that. Speaking of the Schengen, that would mean our own trade deals with the US are definitely dead and the border has to get much more serious, since it’s now the border between the US and every country in Europe.
It would also make Kosovo and Bosnia butthurt if we got in first, so there’s a chance they’d just deny it on geographical grounds - we could qualify as substantially European, but only could.
All in all, I think it’s a great aspirational goal, at least, because “substantially align regulations on control of tomato leaf miner pests” isn’t quite so catchy.
The EU and US standards are very different and products for one can’t necessarily be shipped to the other and vice versa. Examples for food include massive differences for colourings, preservatives and the like. Europe will not accept chicken washed in chlorinated water or bright froot loops. Health traffic lights are also going to be different.
While it’s possible to have 2 production lines, 1 for each economic zone, that’s expensive for producers and shippers.
Someone please correct me if I’m wrong, but I’m pretty sure that Canada’s food standards with regards to dyes and preservatives are already far closer to the EU standard than the American.
I can only imagine what radioactive things get put in American food if that’s true. Our stuff is still plenty fluorescent.
I don’t think anyone in this picture seriously expects Canada to officially join the EU. The US would never allow such an interference with its manifest destiny. But we can make a close partnership even closer.
Not in the picture, but other folks in this posts comments are taking this possibility too seriously