• @cm0002
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    1816 hours ago

    LMAO don’t drag me into this, I do what I do because I consider .ml and the rest of the Tankie Triad to be a threat to the long term growth and survivability of the Lemmy-verse at large

    Blahaj doesn’t promote dangerous political rhetoric, hold authoritarian regimes to a gold standard or enforce a specific narrative through moderation.

    This was, at worst, a bad moderation decision that @[email protected] has every right to vent about

    • @PugJesusOP
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      1016 hours ago

      This was, at worst, a bad moderation decision that @[email protected] has every right to vent about

      No, apparently, I have no right to vent about it, and no one should talk about it, and maybe if I wasn’t performing thoughtcrime on another instance entirely by defending myself against accusations of transphobia, Blahaj wouldn’t have been forced to call a trans user a transphobe and a fascist and dogpile them until they left the Fediverse.

      Truly, my sins are monumental.

      • Blaze (he/him)
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        -515 hours ago

        Blahaj wouldn’t have been forced to call a trans user a transphobe and a fascist and dogpile them until they left the Fediverse.

        You’re making all that fuss over a 22 days old account?

        Is that a new way to create drama, concern trolling using a few weeks old alts that post to [email protected] in their first week when usually new joiners take weeks to discover that community?

        • @PugJesusOP
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          1115 hours ago

          You’re making all that fuss over a 22 days old account?

          Oh, of course, it’s okay to bully a trans person into leaving the Fediverse by calling them transphobic and fascist if it’s a new account.

          Fucking insane.

          Is that a new way to create drama, concern trolling using a few weeks old alts that post to [email protected] in their first week when usually new joiners take weeks to discover that community?

          Christ, what a piss-weak deflection.

          • Blaze (he/him)
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            -215 hours ago

            Christ, what a piss-weak deflection.

            Their first two comments on [email protected]

            Why do you post everwhere 196 comes up trying to funnel people to your instance?

            You even post on the 196 wolrd community trying to get people to leave.

            Do you hate that community?

            Blaze why do you hate that community so much? You commit so much time to tearing them down.

            People will judge if that looks like a genuine new joiner getting bullied, or an alt trying to reframe the whole !196 drama in another light

            For the !196 issue context: https://lemmy.ca/post/37558800

            • @PugJesusOP
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              715 hours ago

              People will judge if that looks like a genuine new joiner getting bullied, or an alt

              So it’s okay to bully a trans person if they’re new to the Fediverse, and it’s also okay to bully them if they’re an established user - so long, of course, as they disagree with Blahaj.

              Wonderful.

    • Blaze (he/him)
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      -315 hours ago

      Situations are different indeed.

      I made the comparison because the recommendations of people in both case are similar: ignore those instances you have issues with and move on.

      • @cm0002
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        815 hours ago

        ignore those instances you have issues with and move on.

        Maybe for Blahaj and other instances, but it shouldn’t be for Tankie Instances.

        There absolutely should be a loud and visible opposition to them to externally demonstrate that Lemmy != “The Tankie Place” or Voat 2.0

        • Blaze (he/him)
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          I’ve been building

          Hoping that people would leave .ml for those communities after the whole post 9 months ago. https://feddit.nl/post/16246531

          I still hope people will, but inertia is still something, even on Lemmy. Most of the people don’t care. [email protected] and [email protected] are still the main communities on those topics. It’s okay. Maybe things will change over time. There’s no rush.

          In the meantime, it’s better to build something rather then spend time spouting on them.

          • @cm0002
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            415 hours ago

            It should be a multi-pronged approach, build alternate comms off the Tankie Triad while also showing opposition for new users to hopefully see that no, this is not a safe haven for tankies

            • Blaze (he/him)
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              -215 hours ago

              But here’s the thing: constantly posting memes about “the tankie triad” paints you in a bad light, the light of the harasser.

              People don’t care about that. To get them to switch to another community, you have to offer a better community. No amount of meme is going to help with that.

              • @cm0002
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                714 hours ago

                Lol I haven’t posted a meme about it for a few weeks now, I’ve been focusing on documentation lately

                Either way though, it requires a multi-pronged approach. Memes alone will not sway, but better comms, public documentation of their behavior AND memes can be incredibly effective

                • Blaze (he/him)
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                  014 hours ago

                  Sounds good. Sorry about that, I thought the last one was much more recent.

                  What documentation are you focusing on?

                  • @cm0002
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                    A common trend I’ve noticed in the comments when Tankies come up is a growing group of “I’ve never noticed anything bad about .ml” people. Since .ml tends to enforce their narrative through mod action it has the effect of being more subtle. Hex/grad IMO have more of tendency to choose “dogpiling” which is a lot more visible to people.

                    So now whenever I dip into the modlog or I’m bored I’ll collect some screenshots of that in action and post them to [email protected] like at https://lemmy.world/post/26047186