• @[email protected]
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    810 hours ago

    It’s a very popular sentiment on Reddit and Lemmy, in my experience, to blame non voters as much as or even more than Trump voters.

    • @[email protected]
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      2110 hours ago

      That’s because the people who voted for Trump wanted Trump to win. The people who stayed at home who might not have wanted Trump to win assisted his win by not voting.

      • @[email protected]
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        17 hours ago

        But you don’t know who non voters would have voted for. A study of non voters in 2020 showed a near even split, so it’s nothing but pointless speculation to blame people who didn’t vote. And I say this as someone who actually supports compulsory voting. I just find it much more productive, and accurate, to lay blame on those who we do know, for sure, actually voted for this result.

        • @Lauchs
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          37 hours ago

          Wait, this seems silly. You are in effect saying that it’s wrong to blame those who stayed home because some of them would have voted for trump? Like, we’d still blame those people too had they actually voted trumo.

          The blame isn’t just because you voted for trump it is because you didn’t try to stop him, which applies both to those who voted for him and those who didn’t vote.

          • @[email protected]
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            07 hours ago

            Those who blame the nonvoters for Trump winning are implying that had they voted, Trump would have lost. We cannot know that and I do not find it productive. Again, I actually am in favour of compulsory voting, so urging people to vote is a good thing that I’m very much for. But I’m not going to blame those who didn’t vote for Trump for Trump winning.

            • @Lauchs
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              16 hours ago

              Are you an llm? Most humans, instead of restating what they’ve already said, actually read the comment to which they are replying.

              • @[email protected]
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                25 hours ago

                I did and replied in kind. No need to resort to insults. If you’re not interested in continuing the conversation you don’t have to reply. But it will probably just be in circles anyway, so good day.

                • @Lauchs
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                  12 hours ago

                  In what way was your response meaningfully different from your original comment?

        • @[email protected]
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          17 hours ago

          If we look at how people tend to lean the independents have a slight left lean t’s typically 55/45%.

    • @fartsparkles
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      9 hours ago

      Which is a fantastic way to get people to care more about politics </s>

      • @Serinus
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        79 hours ago

        Maybe getting rid of social security, freedom of speech, and the national parks will do the job.