• Zombie-Mantis
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    505 hours ago

    Blue states need to start up their own shadow government, fund their own shit.

    • @DarkFuture
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      314 hours ago

      Californian here.

      We should stop paying federal taxes.

      We have a ton of money, a ton of military installations, and 1 in 8 Americans IS a Californian. Washington and Oregon join us, and we’d be in even better shape. Canada can get in on the action too.

      A felon rapist traitor and his traitor party is making our Constitution irrelevant. Time to start looking out for ourselves.

      • Pandasdontfly
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        22 hours ago

        I’m all for seceding into a socialist cascadia please and thanks

      • @mojofrododojo
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        164 hours ago

        WA state here - it’s ridiculous that I have to subsidize chuds in Mississippi and Louisiana when they won’t even give their citizens human rights. they’re all about fiscal responsibility until it comes to paying their own fucking bills.

        • @[email protected]
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          24 hours ago

          Federal taxes don’t actually work that way. The federal government prints its own money. All taxes effectively go into a giant shredder and are unrelated to spending.

          • @[email protected]
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            83 hours ago

            I don’t even know where to begin correcting such an insane statement. Why do you think k taxes are collected if it just gets shredded? Sadistic pleasure?

            • @[email protected]
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              43 hours ago

              He makes a good point, it’s just to balance the inflation. Take the tax money to offset the federal reserve printing swathes of money to fund government endeavors.

            • @Maggoty
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              12 hours ago

              It’s a real theory. From what I understand though the shredder is a thought experiment, not meant to be taken seriously. They do acknowledge that you have to receive money to spend money. they just think of it like a balancing act instead of a 1 to 1 relationship.

              • @[email protected]
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                22 hours ago

                You don’t need to receive money to spend money if you print money. The purpose of taxation is to reduce the monetary supply.

      • @[email protected]
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        63 hours ago

        If we are going to do a tax protest we will need some kind of guarantees from the state government. Otherwise going to war with the IRS will not work. The IRS always wins.

      • Zombie-Mantis
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        12 hours ago

        I’m not sure that’s feasible, since the states don’t just sign a check to the Feds once a year, it’s paid via payroll taxes. To my knowledge, there is no kind of mechanism for entire states to collectively refuse payment.

    • @[email protected]
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      63 hours ago

      That costs money in state taxes, and the GOP is working on reducing the state and local tax deductions in the federal tax code. Making states who are trying to create good living conditions for their citizens prohibitively expensive to live in. It’s horse shit.

    • SkaveRat
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      124 hours ago

      isn’t that kind of the idea of states? Them having their own budgets?

      • Zombie-Mantis
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        12 hours ago

        Well, yes, but I meant they to pool their budgets amongst themselves, like a mini federal government.