The DNC bots have came to lemmy. Like on reddit how they post some BS blaming others for not supporting a candidate that didn’t represent them in the primary and likely wouldn’t have in their office. Then they downvote reasonable criticism to guide the conversation to make it seem like their opinion is the only correct one.
blaming others for not supporting a candidate that didn’t represent them in the primary and likely wouldn’t have in their office.
This is irrelevant. On election day you get two options and you have to pick whichever one comes CLOSEST to representing you. A ton of whiny little bitches stayed home or voted 3rd party (pointless) because Democrats didn’t align PERFECTLY with them. That shit ain’t happening in reality. You grow up and pick whoever is CLOSEST.
If only there was some entity we could donate to that could educate and persuade voters to vote for a progressive candidate via some kind of nationwide campaign…or something.
Alright I’m being facetious here if it’s not obvious but I agree with you. Whether the blame is placed at the feet of voters or the party (it doesn’t fucking matter as one is supposed to be educating and representing the other), the party is going to need to be the solution.
We can’t control the American voters so complaining about them doesn’t actually accomplish anything.
That’s a fair statement. It’s not so much complaining though, as just an observation of reality.
And I do agree that Democrats need to get better at promoting themselves.
But American voters cannot be absolved of responsibility. Especially not in an election like what we just experienced. This election wasn’t confusing. It wasn’t two candidates neck and neck in terms of being solid or bad. One candidate was WAY, WAY, SUPER, INCREDIBLY worse than the other and we already had a test run with him to prove it. We had a debate where he made a fool of himself talking about immigrants eating people’s pets and admitting he only had concepts of plans.
For the American public to go with that guy anyway…well, that’s a damning condemnation of American voters.
The focus should be forcing Democrats to get better at messaging. But the American voter’s failure CANNOT be ignored. If we keep placing all the blame on Democrats, without acknowledging the general public’s failure, then we’re simply ignoring the TRUE issue. The true issue being that we’re a complacent, lazy society that does not vote responsibly, regardless of what the parties themselves are doing or not doing.
“We can, however, change the Democratic party to better align with the voters.”
Can you though? It’s not for lack of trying but y’all don’t seem to be having much success with this.
Or maybe your methods just need work. Instead of just bitching and moaning about the DNC on the internet you can actually get off your gaming chair and run for office at the local level and convince real people to vote for you.
The democrats objectively were wrong.
They lost the election.
That’s the only measure of right or wrong that actually matters.
They literally had only one job and they fucked it up again.
American voters had one job. To responsibly inform themselves and make the best choice for the welfare of their nation. They failed to do so, again.
We can’t control the American voters so complaining about them doesn’t actually accomplish anything.
We can, however, change the Democratic party to better align with the voters.
That should be everyone’s focus.
Your comment is both reasonable and reflective.
The DNC bots have came to lemmy. Like on reddit how they post some BS blaming others for not supporting a candidate that didn’t represent them in the primary and likely wouldn’t have in their office. Then they downvote reasonable criticism to guide the conversation to make it seem like their opinion is the only correct one.
This is irrelevant. On election day you get two options and you have to pick whichever one comes CLOSEST to representing you. A ton of whiny little bitches stayed home or voted 3rd party (pointless) because Democrats didn’t align PERFECTLY with them. That shit ain’t happening in reality. You grow up and pick whoever is CLOSEST.
Interesting, because it looks like people chose a different option here in reality. Maybe you’re wrong and just wanting your ideal to be the case?
If only there was some entity we could donate to that could educate and persuade voters to vote for a progressive candidate via some kind of nationwide campaign…or something.
Alright I’m being facetious here if it’s not obvious but I agree with you. Whether the blame is placed at the feet of voters or the party (it doesn’t fucking matter as one is supposed to be educating and representing the other), the party is going to need to be the solution.
That’s a fair statement. It’s not so much complaining though, as just an observation of reality.
And I do agree that Democrats need to get better at promoting themselves.
But American voters cannot be absolved of responsibility. Especially not in an election like what we just experienced. This election wasn’t confusing. It wasn’t two candidates neck and neck in terms of being solid or bad. One candidate was WAY, WAY, SUPER, INCREDIBLY worse than the other and we already had a test run with him to prove it. We had a debate where he made a fool of himself talking about immigrants eating people’s pets and admitting he only had concepts of plans.
For the American public to go with that guy anyway…well, that’s a damning condemnation of American voters.
The focus should be forcing Democrats to get better at messaging. But the American voter’s failure CANNOT be ignored. If we keep placing all the blame on Democrats, without acknowledging the general public’s failure, then we’re simply ignoring the TRUE issue. The true issue being that we’re a complacent, lazy society that does not vote responsibly, regardless of what the parties themselves are doing or not doing.
Why can we convince the Dem Party but not the electorate?
The dem party is supposed to be the tool to convince the electorate
Can you though? It’s not for lack of trying but y’all don’t seem to be having much success with this.
Or maybe your methods just need work. Instead of just bitching and moaning about the DNC on the internet you can actually get off your gaming chair and run for office at the local level and convince real people to vote for you.
What?!
Ken Martin is a huge win as chair…
Like, we already changed the party. It happened.
That’s why I went from constantly shit talking the DNC to promoting it.
Neoliberals bet everything on Biden/Harris, and now they don’t have control of the DNC anymore.
The only people who shouldn’t be happy about that is conservatives
Would be a lot easier if the DNC didn’t align with the Republicans to sabotage third party candidates at any level of office.
That’s because Democrats are expected to be perfect. Republicans are not.
Different standards.
It’s literally WAY easier for Republicans to get votes than Democrats. For a myriad of reasons.