• @Raiderkev
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    1014 hours ago

    UK isn’t in the EU anyway

    • @Valmond
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      23 hours ago

      FYI the EU is not about military, only about economics.

      The UK has made the recent JEF with sweden and others for example, so no problem joining up militarily.

      • @shalafi
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        87 hours ago

        What in the world makes you think a sovereign nation (UK) has to ask permission from the US to use their military arsenal?! We might have agreements in place, but no way in hell does the US control the UK’s nuclear launch capability.

        • HelloThere
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          5 hours ago

          It’s not as straight forward as asking permission, but you should read about Trident as a missle platform.

          To say the UK has a genuinely independent nuclear deterent is not as clear cut as you’d think. But that’s not the same as being absolutely beholden to the US.

          That all said, we really do need to swap to the french missle system, but that will take time to retro fit the subs.

          • @[email protected]
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            24 hours ago

            The UK outsourced maintenance of the delivery mechanism (the missile body) to the US.

            The warhead is built & maintained by the UK.

            The missiles have a life span so eventually they will stop working without US help.

            • HelloThere
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              13 hours ago

              Sure, the crux is how long is eventually. We may need that sooner than we previously thought.

              • @[email protected]
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                12 hours ago

                5-7 years iirc according to the article I read. After that failure rates start going up, not sure how long the curve from 0-100% is though.

                Bottom line the UK (and the rest of the EU) need to start getting missile factories stood up. Not just for trident but for all the other arms we get off the US.