• @[email protected]
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    413 hours ago

    Yeah, they’ve pretty strongly turned from recent history though. No one in NATO believes the US could be trusted to uphold article 5 anymore. That’s the whole issue.

    Hell, why doesn’t Ukraine have the nuclear deterrnet that it had after the collapse of the Soviet Union? Because they foolishly believed American security promises, which were given in exchange for them releasing their nukes.

    • @x00z
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      16 hours ago

      Exactly. But it also shows it’s more about Trump than America.

      Plus we got other stuff to worry about, and playing nice with America is probably better in the long run.