it’s like you believe you can tariff them expecting they won’t do the same. Why do you believe the rest of the world is not going to retaliate and why do you believe America can prosper without the rest of the world?
What’s the point of having a military alliance with countries you puts tariffs on? That’s unfriendly to say the least.
You’re dodging the question. Why do you believe they’re beating us?
I personally believe it’s due to lack of public investment in education and technology in western countries. But the fact that you keep coming back to eugenics-themed arguments is concerning. So again, why do you think it is they’re beating us?
And you are correct, but why do you assume there’s any eugenics-themed arguments above? There is nothing of the sort. Everything the other poster says is completely compatible with Taiwan investing in education and technology that the US failed to do.
I get that impression because of the projections that my preference for US citizens to get the jobs in the US is somehow xenophobic, the references to Project Paperclip, and the insistence that these jobs can only possibly be filled by importing exploitable labor instead of getting people educated & trained here.
It’s been clear for decades that we needed this talent developed here in the states. They’ve been pushing the chips act for years, with building the factories expected to take years after passing. In all that time, we can’t get the people trained here? Bullshit.
Eugenics themed? Lmfao what?
I’m not saying they’re naturally smarter than other people lol. It has nothing to do with genetics. The answer to “why are they winning the race” isn’t simple, and the answer to “how can the US surpass them” could fill a novel and still not provide a clear answer. They’re beating everyone, not just America, and a lot of it comes down to chance and circumstance.
“Chance and circumstances” is either doubling down on the eugenics theme, or you’re just opposed to increased investments in education and training.
Lmfao what is this conversation? Seriously, what is this with calling me a eugenicist? You really need to go actually learn about the topic at hand. The “chance and circumstance” isn’t birth or genetics lol it’s, like, the chance of Einstein being bored at the patent office.
Chip fabrication is literally the place where global market forces are actively working to cut corners on the fundamental structure of reality. These people shave off nanometers between semiconductors while stopping electrons from hopping the gap between one atom to another. You can’t just “hard work” past them. They’re not like “naturally” better, they’re just currently winning a very challenging race, and it will take time for anyone else to catch up.
No, not time. Investments in public education and technology. We’d already have a crop of grads ready to go, if we’d have been training for as long as Congress has been trying to import the labor instead.
I don’t know if you know how education works, but it takes time lol. But more importantly, they’re beating countries that do invest much more heavily in education. They’re beating everyone.
Like, sure. Yes. We agree. We should invest more in education for a lot of reasons… but guess what? Chip fabrication on their level isn’t a college course, it’s cutting edge institutional knowledge. They are the best of the best in chip fabrication right now. And if you want to provide Americans with the best education, you bring over the best of the best in the field, no?
They’re not bringing them in to train US workers. They’re bringing them in to work.
You don’t have to start training them to manufacture chips in kindergarten. And in the time they’ve spent lobbying for importing the workers, we’d have had years to train up our own. Now that would make the chips more expensive to properly pay US workers to do it, for sure, and cut into profits. Which is really why this is about.