• Spaniard
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    3 days ago

    If you pay property taxes then the property isn’t yours.

    In my town, the land belongs to the local government.

    • @[email protected]
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      63 days ago

      Certified psycho. If you think owning a plot of land within a country does not have an opportunity cost you are wrong. If you think people imposing costs on others shouldn’t pay for it say it out loud.

      Just go and found your own country already, you just need a gun in order to enforce your ownership. In the end a state is just the monopoly of force in a place.

      • @captainlezbian
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        13 days ago

        Yeah, this is one of the meanings of “property is theft”. To own land is deny all others that piece of land.

      • Spaniard
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        3 days ago

        I agree with the point that land is owned by the one strong enough to enforce ownership.

        I also think you agree with my point that we don’t own our land, or even our houses, the State owns it and we rent it from them.

        • @[email protected]
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          53 days ago

          We don’t rent it from them. We pay for continued ownership. The difference being that eviction is not possible and you do not need permits unless you do something more involved to your property. Calling it renting discounts the complexities that renting brings with it. The costs of renting usually are much higher than property taxes.

          • BeardedBlaze
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            23 days ago

            “We pay for continued ownership” sure sounds like rent to me. Make sure you tell those that had their house/property taken away from them due to eminent domain how eviction is not possible.

            • @[email protected]
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              22 days ago

              At that point the term renting becomes something else entirely and therefore useless to discriminate between renters and homeowners. this discrimination is useful, hence we must not weaken our language.

            • @[email protected]
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              2 days ago

              It’s more like a tax, you choose to purchase land from the city, you gain access to city services by living in the city, and in exchange you must pay the city annually for the privilege of owning the land, and if you don’t pay for long enough the city might seize the land from you. Could even call it a property tax…

    • @[email protected]
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      63 days ago

      As it should. You’re telling me someone can just buy a piece of the earth and everyone born after them is just shit outta luck? Fuck that.

      • Spaniard
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        3 days ago

        Well isn’t that pretty much what my local government did?

        Considering it’s history. It was Monarch land, then took by dictator, then took by Republic, then took by dictator, then back to Monarchy for a short period during democratic transitioning. Well technically they didn’t even buy it they just took it.

        While the people living here, which with me it’s 3 generations of my family but another three before that of another family (the ones who built it), had to paid for it the whole time.

        At least the duchess land was really cheap, like 1 testimonial cent even in recent times.

        If that sounds fair to you, then okay, nothing different from Absolute Monarchies time except the Monarchs.

    • @Mickey7OP
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      33 days ago

      This is such an excellent point. Exactly when do we get to stop paying for something that we already own