You’re right, “food influencers” and the “Manosphere” at large have been spouting nonsense about plant oils for a long time. That realm is rife with pseudoscience from people who think you don’t eat enough meat and that eating vegetables makes you weak. They try to sell strength to people by speaking confidently about being strong while also making shit up and lying about it.
I’ll never forget a phrase I heard about a certain type that loves to work out and talk about it with almost everyone to the exclusion of nearly anything else, and has turned to some way of trying to profit from that. Some times they might become a trainer or an influencer or sell supplements or what have you. Nothing wrong with those things in themselves so much, but it’s when they make the leap from their anecdotal experiences to thinking they have any credentials in nutrition or being an MD, etc…
That phrase was “bro science”.
Having worked for a company once that was FILLED with this type due to the industry we were in, I wish so very much I could go back in time with that phrase. Holy shit. I found them laughable and that’s BEFORE I became fully vegetarian. The amount of unsolicited stupid “advice” I got, involving basic nutrition that they were wrong about was off the charts.
Anyway, later on, I became vegetarian and wow, I sure have had my fill of “bro science” when it comes to what I eat. Favorite starter is: “but where do you get your protein?” Holeeeeee fuck.
Yeah when I was young most the weird anti vegetarian talking points that got thrown at me endlessly were things like ‘but if you were on an island without vegetation you’d have to eat meat’ but there was a point where it switched to bad nutrition ‘you can’t get protein from vegetables!’
I would point out that since I’ve never eaten meat and am healthy and strong that’s obviously not true and so they’d revert back to innane stuff like ‘mice and foxes get killed during harvesting’ or ‘plants can feel pain too’
Now though it’s evolved into weird alpha male podcast drivel, I hear stuff like ‘beans make you feminine’ and ‘we need beef protein to create masculine hormones’ and it’s always backed by complex jargon from people speaking like doctors but who can’t answer basic biology questions like what do the kidneys do.
Yeah, I get lots of weird nonsense what-if scenarios, too. In this case from adults that have been living decades in a modern society, they imagine some kind of apocalyptic scenario is just around the corner where I’ll be somehow forced to eat meat? My reaction is usually “uh, sure, I guess, but first of all I didn’t sign some suicide pact with myself, and secondly, I’m sure that dietary restrictions will take a back seat in such stark scenarios…”
Comment my wife got from an associate when she was trying to pick out something to eat at dinner, and asking the server some questions - this person says: “I don’t know what you guys are going to do when the apocalypse comes”. This was in 2024, no joke. I’m always curious how omnivores think they’ll just suddenly take to living off the land because they currently eat meat? Like they will be hunting deer in the suburbs? As someone that has seen several “back to the land” hippie communes fail - as a child - I cannot help but laugh at their hubris.
Yeah, for the last couple of years at the food bank when they give out soy or canola oil plenty of people turn it down and say they don’t use seed oil because it’s toxic. People are missing out on perfectly good food because of these clowns. (I don’t like the taste of canola oil but I’ll still use it if it’s what’s available)
Yeah, they’ve been going on about this for a while.
You’re right, “food influencers” and the “Manosphere” at large have been spouting nonsense about plant oils for a long time. That realm is rife with pseudoscience from people who think you don’t eat enough meat and that eating vegetables makes you weak. They try to sell strength to people by speaking confidently about being strong while also making shit up and lying about it.
I’ll never forget a phrase I heard about a certain type that loves to work out and talk about it with almost everyone to the exclusion of nearly anything else, and has turned to some way of trying to profit from that. Some times they might become a trainer or an influencer or sell supplements or what have you. Nothing wrong with those things in themselves so much, but it’s when they make the leap from their anecdotal experiences to thinking they have any credentials in nutrition or being an MD, etc…
That phrase was “bro science”.
Having worked for a company once that was FILLED with this type due to the industry we were in, I wish so very much I could go back in time with that phrase. Holy shit. I found them laughable and that’s BEFORE I became fully vegetarian. The amount of unsolicited stupid “advice” I got, involving basic nutrition that they were wrong about was off the charts.
Anyway, later on, I became vegetarian and wow, I sure have had my fill of “bro science” when it comes to what I eat. Favorite starter is: “but where do you get your protein?” Holeeeeee fuck.
Yeah when I was young most the weird anti vegetarian talking points that got thrown at me endlessly were things like ‘but if you were on an island without vegetation you’d have to eat meat’ but there was a point where it switched to bad nutrition ‘you can’t get protein from vegetables!’
I would point out that since I’ve never eaten meat and am healthy and strong that’s obviously not true and so they’d revert back to innane stuff like ‘mice and foxes get killed during harvesting’ or ‘plants can feel pain too’
Now though it’s evolved into weird alpha male podcast drivel, I hear stuff like ‘beans make you feminine’ and ‘we need beef protein to create masculine hormones’ and it’s always backed by complex jargon from people speaking like doctors but who can’t answer basic biology questions like what do the kidneys do.
Yeah, I get lots of weird nonsense what-if scenarios, too. In this case from adults that have been living decades in a modern society, they imagine some kind of apocalyptic scenario is just around the corner where I’ll be somehow forced to eat meat? My reaction is usually “uh, sure, I guess, but first of all I didn’t sign some suicide pact with myself, and secondly, I’m sure that dietary restrictions will take a back seat in such stark scenarios…”
Comment my wife got from an associate when she was trying to pick out something to eat at dinner, and asking the server some questions - this person says: “I don’t know what you guys are going to do when the apocalypse comes”. This was in 2024, no joke. I’m always curious how omnivores think they’ll just suddenly take to living off the land because they currently eat meat? Like they will be hunting deer in the suburbs? As someone that has seen several “back to the land” hippie communes fail - as a child - I cannot help but laugh at their hubris.
I love the Ron Swanson cos players that get their T levels up by strictly eating Steak, butter and Whiskey
Yeah, for the last couple of years at the food bank when they give out soy or canola oil plenty of people turn it down and say they don’t use seed oil because it’s toxic. People are missing out on perfectly good food because of these clowns. (I don’t like the taste of canola oil but I’ll still use it if it’s what’s available)
Hey Darwin, can we uhhhh, use your theory to speed this along a little?