• @lepinkainen
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    -52 days ago

    If nobody is allowed to own more than one property, should everyone be forced buy? Where would renters get apartments from?

      • @lepinkainen
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        014 hours ago

        I am from Finland and public housing is shit.

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          Public housing was shit, maybe.

          Or are all of the articles like this staged? And all of the data is made up?

          Since its launch in 2008, the number of homeless people in Finland has decreased by roughly 30%,[1] though other reports indicate it could be up to 50%.[7] The number of long-term homeless people has fallen by more than 35%.[3] “Sleeping rough”, the practice of sleeping outside, has been largely eradicated in Helsinki, where only one 50-bed night shelter remains.[3] Analysis of Housing First in Tampere, Finland found that it saved €250,000 in one year.[8] A further study of Finland’s Housing First program found that giving a homeless person a home and support resulted in cost savings for the society of at least €15,000 per person per year, with potentially even higher cost savings in the long term.[7] These cost savings for society are in part a result of reductions in usage of emergency healthcare, police, and the justice system when homeless people are given a home.[9]

          So they look like link 1, and they result in that… Seems great.

          • @lepinkainen
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            012 hours ago

            Giving homeless people homes != “public housing”

            We do consider having a place to live a human right, but that doesn’t mean the houses are especially good or well maintained compared to commercial options.

            They aren’t always even the cheapest - those can usually be found from private renters who own one or two apartments they rent.

      • @[email protected]
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        11 day ago

        Ah, so the government is your landlord now?

        It’s good, because Americans have so much trust in their government right now.

            • @[email protected]
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              31 day ago

              Actually it’s a fucking nightmare having your closest neighbour threaten your sovereignty on a daily basis.

              It’s even worse when half the population actually endorses the behaviour.

              I don’t hate Americans I’m just disappointed. I hope my children aren’t going to die in a trench on the same field I farm

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                124 hours ago

                I’m sorry, yeah that must be awful.

                It’s even worse when half the population actually endorses the behaviour.

                Are there a lot of Canadians who support it then?

    • ArchRecord
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      31 day ago

      Government-provided housing, social housing where your payments get you partial collective ownership, cheaper mortgages now that landlords aren’t artificially inflating the rates?

    • @[email protected]
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      32 days ago

      The government. They used to provide housing in the UK and then they stopped and stopped building new houses and now they’re unattainable for most.

      • @lepinkainen
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        Can you give me a serious answer without the /s

        If I inherit my grandmas apartment, can I put it up for rent since it’s a small apartment in a college town and there will be takers.

        Or should I sell it so I don’t become a “landlord”, which is bad?

        Should all students just buy an apartment for the 4-5 years they spend in the city or will the city be the landlord for them somehow collectively? Or is it less bad if the college is the landlord by offering student housing?

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          17 hours ago

          You could donate it? You could turn it into a shelter. You could let someone live there rent free… Why is selling the only option you can think of?

          • @lepinkainen
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            214 hours ago

            “Rent free” so I’d pay the costs and someone could just be there for free? I can’t afford that.

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              No… I specifically said “rent free” instead of “free”… You can charge them what it costs to upkeep with no profit, that’s my point.

              • @lepinkainen
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                212 hours ago

                …so now being a landlord is ok if you don’t make too much profit?

                I seriously can’t keep up.

        • @[email protected]
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          02 days ago

          Yes landlords shouldn’t exist. Colleges shouldn’t exist either talk about a cash scam and purely for profit leaches, don’t get me started on student athletes only a real scumbag would take a billion dollar industry and not pay the “workers”.

          • @lepinkainen
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            11 day ago

            Not American.

            Our colleges and universities are free. There is no student athlete industry over here.

            • @[email protected]
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              11 day ago

              So if your taxes pay for education shouldn’t they pay for basic housing? One of these is required for life, isn’t this taught in university?

              • @lepinkainen
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                11 day ago

                You didn’t answer my question:

                If I inherit an apartment, am I allowed to rent it or should I sell it to not become a landlord?

                  • @lepinkainen
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                    120 hours ago

                    So what should I do with the inherited apartment?

                    If I sell it to someone, they might become a landlord, which is bad.

                    Should I sell it to the city? Will they buy it?

                    Is it better if I gift it to my kid and keep it emtpty for 10 years until they need it? Then I’m not a landlord, because I don’t own multiple properties.

    • @Maalus
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      -32 days ago

      No rentals, houses will be gifted to everyone and magically conjured out of thin air.

        • @Maalus
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          Well, so far all of the “different paths” turned out to be completely crap at working. But surely the next time will do it.

          • @[email protected]
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            21 day ago

            …what different paths have been taken? Certainly not enacting a tax code that would make multiple unit ownership progressively unfeasible. That’s just a start. Of course, that would take the electorate to actually be educated and informed in their voting and stop reelecting these geriatric ghouls on both sides of the aisle. To be fair (to be faaaiiiirr) I share a lot of your nihilism.