More than 10,000 people turned out for a rally with U.S. Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt), in Warren as part of his national “Fighting Oligarchy” tour.

  • @MellowYellow13
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    86 hours ago

    How in the fuck is Bernie too far left for you? America is way too far fucking right wing, that’s insane

    • @notsoshaihulud
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      America is way too far fucking right wing, that’s insane

      It generally is, especially from the European perspective but not entirely. If we put aside present republican posturing, the USA is very immigration-friendly right and left whereas in Europe the right wing is extremely against any kind of immigration.

      How in the fuck is Bernie too far left for you?

      You guys are way too inclined to think in extremes. Slight = difference between democratic socialist vs. social democrat.

      • queermunist she/her
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        95 hours ago

        Bernie is a social democrat, regardless of branding. You’re gonna need to specify where Bernie is to your left.

        • @notsoshaihulud
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          -35 hours ago

          The democratic socialist is a label Bernie used to describe himself in the past. I’m not into populism, and consider that social welfare policies only work in a lasting way if people value and respect them, and some of that come with compromises that society has to reach a consensus on.

          Also, I don’t “need to specify” anything to you and if y’all think that you can afford to attack people for being slightly misaligned with your values don’t be surprised about failing to build a movement.

          • queermunist she/her
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            I didn’t attack you? I just asked for clarification! As far as I’m concerned he’s a social democrat, just like you, and I don’t really know what your disagreement with Bernie even is. I guess you’re not into “populism” but what does that mean? You’re not into popular policies? What does it mean to “value and respect” social welfare? Does Bernie not value and respect social welfare? I’d like some specifics so we can have a dialogue.

            How am I even supposed to talk to you if you refuse to clarify your specific problems?

            • @notsoshaihulud
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              -74 hours ago

              How am I even supposed to talk to you if you refuse to clarify your specific problems?

              You can always send a DM. I’m done with this thread, people seem a little too much into movements but don’t understand how to make them appealing😂