cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/26489182

Instead of leaving Xitter, they left Mastodon. Proton’s trend is not inspiring confidence and this feels like another step backwards.

  • @[email protected]
    12•1 day ago

    What exactly does that mean? I have switched to proton because of their open-source nature and to branch out from google. I don’t really care what the proton founders are doing as long as my data isn’t sold by google. In that case nothing will change for me, am I right?

    • @Valmond
      10•1 day ago

      I’m still on Proton (vpn + mail) and I’m not leaving. They are rivalled only by Mullvad for the vpn IMO, and Switzerland has better security laws.

      They leaving mastodon is unfortunate but it’s just that IMO. The article has been posted many times BTW and it stirred some concerns the first time.

      • @[email protected]English
        17•1 day ago

        Hate to break it to you, but “swiss security laws” don’t mean jack if your outside of Switzerland. In 2022, ProtonMail Complied with 5,957 Data Requests from the FBI. See here.

        As a Swiss national, please don’t blindly believe you’re immune because it’s Swiss and that the Swiss law has got you covered. Swiss companies are just as shady as American ones.

        • @asapEnglish
          4•20 hours ago

          That statistic isn’t particularly useful. They complied with requests, but their response might have been “We don’t know anything.”

          The only thing they can provide in regards to email is an IP address, which can be circumvented by using the VPN, which doesn’t log IP addresses. You obviously shouldn’t have a recovery email on your account, so they can’t provide that.

          In my case, I couldn’t care less if they provided my IP address. I’m not doing anything illegal, I just prefer my email to be stored encrypted so server admins can’t read it.

        • @Valmond
          1•22 hours ago

          Thanks for the info, but what’s the alternative? Sweden with their dubious stuff with pirate bay and wikileaks? Any other country?

          It sure is interesting though, and it sucks, but they doesn’t keep logs for what I have understood so there’s that for their VPN at least.

          Maybe there just is no real solution?

          • @[email protected]English
            1•22 hours ago

            Alternatives to Proton? Maybe check out Tuta Mail and Mailbox(dot)org from Germany if you haven’t. Both freemium and privacy-friendly :)