Same for my parents I guess.

  • @GraniteM
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    624 hours ago

    I didn’t know the phrase “free whelping” until I was reading about some pure breed that was known for being able to give birth without medical intervention, on account of there are some breeds in which it’s fairly common to need C-sections. Call me crazy, but I’m pretty sure that being able to give birth unaided ought to be a baseline of health for any goddamn dog in the fucking world.

    • skulblaka
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      223 hours ago

      That’s not even a baseline of health for people, though

      Like I get what you’re saying, but if “able to give birth naturally without complications” is your base line of health for what should be allowed to exist, like a third of human women would not be included in that.

      • @GraniteM
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        520 hours ago

        Humans are almost unique in the animal kingdom in needing C-sections, due to our overdeveloped brains being almost, and occasionally slightly, too big for our birth canals.

        Wolves and most functional dog breeds give birth with no issue at all.

        It’s mostly bulldogs and other wide-headed breeds that need assistance, which sounds to me like breeders going way too far on the wide head / narrow hips route of trait selection.

          • @ikidd
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            23 hours ago

            Ohh, get that, would you, Deirdre?