As an American who has gotten to travel to Scandinavia, the food is so much more fresh and high quality. Even the basic stuff like a hotel breakfast or workplace cafeteria lunch.
It was one difference among a thousand others that I noticed when being there in person. I remember thinking to myself “what is this strange vibe I’m getting from all these cultural differences? Oh, it’s human dignity, respect for others, and in turn respect for oneself.”
I want to say “Europe, help!” but I know they have to protect themselves and the world from our shit show first.
“what is this strange vibe I’m getting from all these cultural differences? Oh, it’s human dignity, respect for others, and in turn respect for oneself.”
Oh how peculiar. I live in Finland and have found that a lot of those things missing. Tourists are treated well, yes. Regulations are good, sure. Food, air, water all fresh, good quality. Not too diverse though.
The stories I could tell you, you honestly wouldn’t believe half of them. Things for which I would’ve had hundreds of thousands in compensations and would have had no problem finding a lawyer to represent my case. Here no-one cared that the cops quite literally tortured me, insofar that keeping me locked up for three days in an isolation cell without even a mattress or ever turning out the lights while denying me my prescription medication so that “I’d be ready to talk” is in fact actually torture. Especially because they saw me go fucking nuts there. I ate my own pinky open with my teeth and used it as a magic marker to draw over 300 words in my own blood on the cells. And the guard cackled at me from the comm for pleading for help and my meds.
I told this to my family, my friends. No-one cares. Literally no-one. Not so much as a “I feel bad that happened to you”. No. My mother literally said “well I don’t know what happened there” as in “you may have deserved it.”
At one point, they turned off my water. Everyone should realise how legal it is to keep someone locked up without water, right? No no. Not a peep from anyone here in Finland. No-one fucking cares. Made a criminal complaint. Nothing. Tried getting the video material, as they dared accuse me of “vandalizing the cell”. I said “well it was all filmed let’s check it shall we, for evidence of this crime” and suddenly it didn’t exist anymore. And I didn’t make the request, some just law school finished scaredycat lawyer who I got did. And said the cops were really fucking weird and afraid when he was asking for it.
but no-one cares no justice not even admission that I was tortured, just victim blaming and people literally avoiding me because that broke me and I’ve had huge ptsd for several years, fucking horrible flashbacks and nightsweats of my doorbell ringing and being taken in the night again over a few cannabis bushes.
But I’m thinking you weren’t in Finland, because you did say “Scandinavia”, not “Nordics”. Finnish cops are more authoritarian than the rest of the nordics combined. Quite literally. As in more complaints to EU human rights laws.
Damn, I am sorry to hear that. That does sound awful and beyond authoritarian. That shit was indeed horrific and all I hope for right now is for your current and future mental state to heal as much as possible.
I visited Sweden btw, and I didn’t spend time with their police fortunately. And after double checking the definition of “Scandinavia,” holy crap I always thought Finland was included! I’m not sure how I learned that incorrectly. I also remember considering “Nordic” when writing my post, funny enough.
Nah, Finland is included colloquially. It’s like the “never split an infinitive” rule for English, outdated and doesn’t work, but people are pedantic about it.
The upper 1/3rd of Finland does belong to Scandinavia (geographically) and our second official language is Sweden and we have lots of Finnish-Swedes, as in people who see completely Finnish but natively speak Swedish. A minority, yes, but a few cities are mainly Swedish speaking.
Sometimes they bitch even about Iceland, because geographically its definitely not Scandinavian, but linguistically and culturally, it most definitely is.
Yeah man I had never had an issue with any police and I used to see them quite a lot as a taxi driver.
Once I drove a friend of mine, he just told me he’s gonna go kick someone’s ass, we drove there, a dude came out in a robe at 5am from an apartment building, my friend punched him in the face, pretty much dropped him but not completely… But then he just waited there while the other guy called the cops. Didn’t mind. The cops asked me, I told them “nah saw nothing” and they were like “gotcha ;>”. Honestly too many times they let us taxis slip too easily imo. Even for speeding a few times.
And even when they detained me, they officers broke rules, didn’t have a search warrant, but told me I can have my prescription meds as long as I have them in the original packaging and prescription etc. Then at the station I took a nap for 4 hours. Then they come in tell me I’m being arrested instead of detained. I asked why. They don’t answer. I ask again. They say I’m being disruptive and haul me to the isolation cell.
Authoritarian as fuck and everyone is such a rulewhore bootlicker when it comes to authority, but not when it comes to anything like feeling duties towards family or your so.
In feels like finns genuinely don’t understand what having principles means. “Reassurance” doesn’t really even translate to Finnish.
Don’t believe the “happiest country in the world” bs btw. You might not have to live on the street, but… that too might be changing seeing where the government is going.
Absolutely!
As an American who has gotten to travel to Scandinavia, the food is so much more fresh and high quality. Even the basic stuff like a hotel breakfast or workplace cafeteria lunch.
It was one difference among a thousand others that I noticed when being there in person. I remember thinking to myself “what is this strange vibe I’m getting from all these cultural differences? Oh, it’s human dignity, respect for others, and in turn respect for oneself.”
I want to say “Europe, help!” but I know they have to protect themselves and the world from our shit show first.
Oh how peculiar. I live in Finland and have found that a lot of those things missing. Tourists are treated well, yes. Regulations are good, sure. Food, air, water all fresh, good quality. Not too diverse though.
The stories I could tell you, you honestly wouldn’t believe half of them. Things for which I would’ve had hundreds of thousands in compensations and would have had no problem finding a lawyer to represent my case. Here no-one cared that the cops quite literally tortured me, insofar that keeping me locked up for three days in an isolation cell without even a mattress or ever turning out the lights while denying me my prescription medication so that “I’d be ready to talk” is in fact actually torture. Especially because they saw me go fucking nuts there. I ate my own pinky open with my teeth and used it as a magic marker to draw over 300 words in my own blood on the cells. And the guard cackled at me from the comm for pleading for help and my meds.
I told this to my family, my friends. No-one cares. Literally no-one. Not so much as a “I feel bad that happened to you”. No. My mother literally said “well I don’t know what happened there” as in “you may have deserved it.”
At one point, they turned off my water. Everyone should realise how legal it is to keep someone locked up without water, right? No no. Not a peep from anyone here in Finland. No-one fucking cares. Made a criminal complaint. Nothing. Tried getting the video material, as they dared accuse me of “vandalizing the cell”. I said “well it was all filmed let’s check it shall we, for evidence of this crime” and suddenly it didn’t exist anymore. And I didn’t make the request, some just law school finished scaredycat lawyer who I got did. And said the cops were really fucking weird and afraid when he was asking for it.
but no-one cares no justice not even admission that I was tortured, just victim blaming and people literally avoiding me because that broke me and I’ve had huge ptsd for several years, fucking horrible flashbacks and nightsweats of my doorbell ringing and being taken in the night again over a few cannabis bushes.
But I’m thinking you weren’t in Finland, because you did say “Scandinavia”, not “Nordics”. Finnish cops are more authoritarian than the rest of the nordics combined. Quite literally. As in more complaints to EU human rights laws.
Damn, I am sorry to hear that. That does sound awful and beyond authoritarian. That shit was indeed horrific and all I hope for right now is for your current and future mental state to heal as much as possible.
I visited Sweden btw, and I didn’t spend time with their police fortunately. And after double checking the definition of “Scandinavia,” holy crap I always thought Finland was included! I’m not sure how I learned that incorrectly. I also remember considering “Nordic” when writing my post, funny enough.
Nah, Finland is included colloquially. It’s like the “never split an infinitive” rule for English, outdated and doesn’t work, but people are pedantic about it. The upper 1/3rd of Finland does belong to Scandinavia (geographically) and our second official language is Sweden and we have lots of Finnish-Swedes, as in people who see completely Finnish but natively speak Swedish. A minority, yes, but a few cities are mainly Swedish speaking.
Sometimes they bitch even about Iceland, because geographically its definitely not Scandinavian, but linguistically and culturally, it most definitely is.
Yeah man I had never had an issue with any police and I used to see them quite a lot as a taxi driver.
Once I drove a friend of mine, he just told me he’s gonna go kick someone’s ass, we drove there, a dude came out in a robe at 5am from an apartment building, my friend punched him in the face, pretty much dropped him but not completely… But then he just waited there while the other guy called the cops. Didn’t mind. The cops asked me, I told them “nah saw nothing” and they were like “gotcha ;>”. Honestly too many times they let us taxis slip too easily imo. Even for speeding a few times.
And even when they detained me, they officers broke rules, didn’t have a search warrant, but told me I can have my prescription meds as long as I have them in the original packaging and prescription etc. Then at the station I took a nap for 4 hours. Then they come in tell me I’m being arrested instead of detained. I asked why. They don’t answer. I ask again. They say I’m being disruptive and haul me to the isolation cell.
Authoritarian as fuck and everyone is such a rulewhore bootlicker when it comes to authority, but not when it comes to anything like feeling duties towards family or your so.
In feels like finns genuinely don’t understand what having principles means. “Reassurance” doesn’t really even translate to Finnish.
Don’t believe the “happiest country in the world” bs btw. You might not have to live on the street, but… that too might be changing seeing where the government is going.
No one could predict the ramifications of dumping some tea in a harbour
Ouch… 😄