Honestly some of them did. That doesn’t mean it’s a good thing. I mean have you seen how some people treat their family? But plenty of them were raped abused etc at the hands of their “owners”. US founding Fathers. I’m looking at you.
While that’s true to a point. It’s not as meaningful. Technically slaves could run away too. People who are abused often find themselves trapped by things a lot of people who haven’t experienced it can’t imagine. It all seems so simple from the outside looking in. But it rarely ever is.
Yeah those runaways that were caught were either killed or made an example of with public torture. Runaways decided that between existing in slavery, being killed on the spot, being tortured, or maybe getting away was worth the risk. It was that bad that they risked everything. I can only imagine the bravery that was needed to decide.
They certainly did. And many children and young adults that seek to get away from abusive parents end up getting put back into the same abuse of situations and killed / tortured too. But we’re getting out in the weeds. And the downvoted circle jerk seems to imply that people are looking to be offended. Not have a discussion of any sort. Not that I ever tried to justify what Florida is doing I disagree with it intensely.
I think the issue with the downvotes is because you said that slaves could just run away. It comes across like you are simplifying the problem. I don’t want to assume that’s what was intended, it just doesn’t come across well. And, you are correct that modern times still have similar corruption. I just hope society on average understands why it’s not okay compared to back then.
It’s not that I’m trying to simplify the problem. It’s that they’re trying to be outraged and looking for something to justify it. It’s uncontroversial to say slaves could run away. The runaway/fugitive slave act were written to address it. The underground railroad to facilitate it.
My whole point initially, that being treated like family by a bunch of authoritarian, rape enablers. Isn’t the flex Republicans think it is. Everything else is comparable. Yes being considered property is worse than being family to an abuser. Well unless you were female and basically treated as property not all that many decades ago. Both are bad neither are good. But y’all wanna be outraged and see things that aren’t there. So have fun.
Honestly some of them did. That doesn’t mean it’s a good thing. I mean have you seen how some people treat their family? But plenty of them were raped abused etc at the hands of their “owners”. US founding Fathers. I’m looking at you.
My family members are allowed to leave if they don’t want to be around me. Slaves, not so much.
While that’s true to a point. It’s not as meaningful. Technically slaves could run away too. People who are abused often find themselves trapped by things a lot of people who haven’t experienced it can’t imagine. It all seems so simple from the outside looking in. But it rarely ever is.
Yeah those runaways that were caught were either killed or made an example of with public torture. Runaways decided that between existing in slavery, being killed on the spot, being tortured, or maybe getting away was worth the risk. It was that bad that they risked everything. I can only imagine the bravery that was needed to decide.
They certainly did. And many children and young adults that seek to get away from abusive parents end up getting put back into the same abuse of situations and killed / tortured too. But we’re getting out in the weeds. And the downvoted circle jerk seems to imply that people are looking to be offended. Not have a discussion of any sort. Not that I ever tried to justify what Florida is doing I disagree with it intensely.
I think the issue with the downvotes is because you said that slaves could just run away. It comes across like you are simplifying the problem. I don’t want to assume that’s what was intended, it just doesn’t come across well. And, you are correct that modern times still have similar corruption. I just hope society on average understands why it’s not okay compared to back then.
It’s not that I’m trying to simplify the problem. It’s that they’re trying to be outraged and looking for something to justify it. It’s uncontroversial to say slaves could run away. The runaway/fugitive slave act were written to address it. The underground railroad to facilitate it.
My whole point initially, that being treated like family by a bunch of authoritarian, rape enablers. Isn’t the flex Republicans think it is. Everything else is comparable. Yes being considered property is worse than being family to an abuser. Well unless you were female and basically treated as property not all that many decades ago. Both are bad neither are good. But y’all wanna be outraged and see things that aren’t there. So have fun.