So at some point you as an individual have to adapt to a vegan diet, either by choice or because there is no alternative.
Do you want to stop eating meat the moment it is outlawed?
We need both regulation to end animal farming and convince individual consumers, that they have to become vegans
If they want “regulations” to “end” animal farming then I just want to be clear that they support imprisoning people who prepare or eat meat. They went to the extreme of jail without mentioning the word jail.
Because in this scenario we are not just disallowing meat for some people. We are utterly outlawing the production and distribution of meat. The analogy simply does not work.
Also, if R rated movies are legal for some people, that means they’re regulated. Outlawing something puts it on the unregulated black market. People will be buying unsafe meat.
If you sell outlawed videos (like snuff films or rape films) you can go to jail for that. Or even for possessing them. That’s a better analogy than R-rated movies which are not actually outlawed.
But you didn’t answer my question. How far are you willing foe the law to go? Do you want meat eaters to go to jail? To merely be fined? What about meat producers and distributors?
I have IBS-D there are over 300 foods I cannot eat or else my intestines get shredded and bleed out immense amounts of blood. I lost over 60 lbs of weight and currently weigh 130lbs as a 5.11 male. Doctors have tried everything and after 3 years they say i will just have to live with this.
Some of the only food I can eat without issue is meat. I wish it wasnt this way, I’d love to become atleast vegetarian, but if I did I would die.
Should I be put to jail or forced to do community service in your hypothetical?
Ooh, you’re like dracula! Dracula is a vampire, and he has to drink the blood of innocents to sustain his immortal body or he’ll die. So his life centers around violating other people in a bloody and vaguely sexual cycle of violence. This is a classic Morbius sitution. It’s a trolley problem, except that you’re the only person on the first track, and you can pull the lever to switch the trolley onto a track with dozens of innocents.
So you are calling me a monster because of a medical condition that I cannot help? Excuse my literal autism diagnosis, just trying to understand what your saying.
Well most monsters can’t help being monsters either. “I’m a vampire and I don’t want to be” is a VERY established trope that really saw a surge in popularity in the 90s. That trope is also at the very core of the werewolf myth, and it’s present in zombie stories too. You know, the survivor who hides their zombie bite and gets everyone else killed through their hubris. They didn’t choose to be bitten by a zombie, but they did choose to harm others through their actions. Like you! You’re a monster movie trope.
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If they want “regulations” to “end” animal farming then I just want to be clear that they support imprisoning people who prepare or eat meat. They went to the extreme of jail without mentioning the word jail.
Mate, it’s illegal for teenagers to buy R rated movies and I’ve never heard of anyone going to jail for it. Why can’t meat be like that?
Because in this scenario we are not just disallowing meat for some people. We are utterly outlawing the production and distribution of meat. The analogy simply does not work.
Also, if R rated movies are legal for some people, that means they’re regulated. Outlawing something puts it on the unregulated black market. People will be buying unsafe meat.
If you sell outlawed videos (like snuff films or rape films) you can go to jail for that. Or even for possessing them. That’s a better analogy than R-rated movies which are not actually outlawed.
But you didn’t answer my question. How far are you willing foe the law to go? Do you want meat eaters to go to jail? To merely be fined? What about meat producers and distributors?
Good analogy, yeah, meat should be treated like child porn.
Meat isn’t addictive. If meat gives people food poisoning, then people won’t eat it. That’s a good thing.
I have IBS-D there are over 300 foods I cannot eat or else my intestines get shredded and bleed out immense amounts of blood. I lost over 60 lbs of weight and currently weigh 130lbs as a 5.11 male. Doctors have tried everything and after 3 years they say i will just have to live with this.
Some of the only food I can eat without issue is meat. I wish it wasnt this way, I’d love to become atleast vegetarian, but if I did I would die.
Should I be put to jail or forced to do community service in your hypothetical?
Ooh, you’re like dracula! Dracula is a vampire, and he has to drink the blood of innocents to sustain his immortal body or he’ll die. So his life centers around violating other people in a bloody and vaguely sexual cycle of violence. This is a classic Morbius sitution. It’s a trolley problem, except that you’re the only person on the first track, and you can pull the lever to switch the trolley onto a track with dozens of innocents.
So you are calling me a monster because of a medical condition that I cannot help? Excuse my literal autism diagnosis, just trying to understand what your saying.
Well most monsters can’t help being monsters either. “I’m a vampire and I don’t want to be” is a VERY established trope that really saw a surge in popularity in the 90s. That trope is also at the very core of the werewolf myth, and it’s present in zombie stories too. You know, the survivor who hides their zombie bite and gets everyone else killed through their hubris. They didn’t choose to be bitten by a zombie, but they did choose to harm others through their actions. Like you! You’re a monster movie trope.
People like you make me depressed and sad. Would you rather I stop eating meat and just die from malnutrition? Maybe I should just die.
People like you make me depressed and sad. Would you rather I stop eating meat and just die from malnutrition? Maybe i should just die.
So your answer is that you do want meat eaters to be arrested by the police, tried in court, and sent to prison.
You think law is synonymous with cops? What kind of excuse for an anarchist are you!?