• BaroqueInMind
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    Please, sane rando on the internet, pray tell, what more intelligent things would you like to share without any context or citations of source?

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      The person your responding to is absolutely correct. For the majority of Biden’s career he was pretty despicable politician. He was one of the angry men yelling at the Anita Hill hearings. He famously lied about his credentials early on. For most of his career he has been owned by wall street. in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s he publicly had pretty hardcore racist and homophobic views. The Biden you see today is not the Biden most of America knows. He has never been a progressive ally.

      https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/joe-biden-record-on-busing-incarceration-racial-justice-democratic-primary-2020-explained.html

      • Mewtwo
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        He _is_the progressive ally that we need now.

        It’s unfortunate he was not perfect in the past, but he’s changed and making amends. Why do Republicans have an issue with that?

        • @hark
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          Progressive ally? Biden was literally the candidate that the establishment put their full force behind (including having Obama make calls to have other candidates drop to back him) in order to defeat Bernie in 2020. Biden himself said “nothing would fundamentally change”. A couple bones thrown here or there doesn’t change that. I don’t know if democrats are astroturfing here of all places or people are just deluding themselves into thinking he’s doing more than he actually is, but he’s really not.

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        They’re not correct at all lol

        Biden has never been a racist. People try to call him racist over a crime bill half-written by black congressional leaders and loudly asked for by the black community.

        Biden has literally always been a stand up guy

        Calling out his busing stance as wrong when it was prescient and he was 100% correct about a generation of black educators losing their jobs is… An interesting take, to say the least.

        Maybe don’t get your news from rags

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          Did you not see his response in the primary debates when kamala called out his segregation policies? Rather than admit that it was the wrong decision, he defended it and used the times as an excuse. Just look at his voting record, he’s been very conservative over his career. It doesn’t matter though, people change, and actions speak louder than words. He’s doing good stuff as president and that’s what matters right now.

          Edit: spelled Kamala wrong and I’m embarrassed

          • @[email protected]
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            Can you at least try to spell the VP’s name right enough that people know who you’re talking about?

          • @SCB
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            Perhaps rather than an abrupt about-face at 80 years old, you’re simply incorrect about Biden’s “history.”

            He was right about schools. We lost a generation of black educators due to the way desegregation was handled nationwide. Biden accurately commented on this. We could have done better, which is literally what he was arguing for.

            I actually learned of this fact tangentially, through an old episode of Revisionist History. His campaign ignored it because it’s safer to ignore than to trust people to understand nuance. Sound campaign move, but plays to a lie, fundamentally.

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              • @SCB
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                You claimed that he opposes gay marriage. That is false. It is a newsworthy level of false.

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                  • @SCB
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                    Lmao instead of finding the same document over and over you could just ask me about the electability of a Presidential candidate openly supporting gay marriage in the years just before you were born.

                    You could just… You know… Learn

      • @SheeEttin
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        And yet somehow he was the still the best available option.

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      • BaroqueInMind
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        Unfortunately I’m old. Can you please help me out by linking articles that support your statements, so I can read them and help you change my mind about him? Thank you.

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          • BaroqueInMind
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            Hell yes, thank you. I’ll edit my comment if I read anything notable that I would like to ask you.

            Edit #1:

            when DOMA came up for a vote in the U.S. Senate on Sept. 10, 1996, Biden in his capacity representing Delaware in the U.S. Senate bowed to public sentiment at the time, voting in favor of the anti-gay law.

            Is the article implying that Biden is only voting in favor to ban gay marriage because he is succumbing to peer pressure?

            Edit# 2: damn it dude, this article makes me sad that Bernie got shafted. Thanks.

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          • BaroqueInMind
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            But the truth matters. Biden’s views on same-sex marriage have never been cutting-edge. When majorities opposed it, so did he. Once support for same-sex marriage became the mainstream Democratic position, Biden adopted it.

            Okay I see, so he’s a two-faced politician who doesn’t understand the full picture. It’s all coming together now why certain groups within the Left don’t like him.

            So you have me on your side now. What options do we have in the next election cycle?

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              • BaroqueInMind
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                we’re no better than maga-ites

                Not true because this conversation between you and I have been sane, respectful, and you changed my mind with facts. They aren’t capable of this feat and will stagnate.

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          • BaroqueInMind
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            This one won’t load for me because I have my firewall block the entire Facebook domain. Can you provide a summary?

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              • BaroqueInMind
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                Marriage is between a man and a woman." - SENATOR JOE BIDEN (D-DE) (NBC’s “Meet The Press,” 6/4/06)

                Ok, so fuck Biden lol. What option is there for the next election cycle?