• @eldavi
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    that dick catered with homophobes, racists, and big corporations throughout his entire career; he’s not reasonable, he’s an opportunist.

    i wish the young could see what ultimately crappy shit he’s done; but i guess this is the change that is needed.

    • BaroqueInMind
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      Please, sane rando on the internet, pray tell, what more intelligent things would you like to share without any context or citations of source?

      • @zombueyOP
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        The person your responding to is absolutely correct. For the majority of Biden’s career he was pretty despicable politician. He was one of the angry men yelling at the Anita Hill hearings. He famously lied about his credentials early on. For most of his career he has been owned by wall street. in the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s he publicly had pretty hardcore racist and homophobic views. The Biden you see today is not the Biden most of America knows. He has never been a progressive ally.

        https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/03/joe-biden-record-on-busing-incarceration-racial-justice-democratic-primary-2020-explained.html

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          He _is_the progressive ally that we need now.

          It’s unfortunate he was not perfect in the past, but he’s changed and making amends. Why do Republicans have an issue with that?

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            Progressive ally? Biden was literally the candidate that the establishment put their full force behind (including having Obama make calls to have other candidates drop to back him) in order to defeat Bernie in 2020. Biden himself said “nothing would fundamentally change”. A couple bones thrown here or there doesn’t change that. I don’t know if democrats are astroturfing here of all places or people are just deluding themselves into thinking he’s doing more than he actually is, but he’s really not.

          • @eldavi
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            not only was he not perfect in the past; but he still stand by his wrong decisions to this day.

        • @SheeEttin
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          And yet somehow he was the still the best available option.

          • @eldavi
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            he’s an opportunist and knows that trump is unpopular outside his base; he’s not the best available option, he’s the ONLY viable option.

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          They’re not correct at all lol

          Biden has never been a racist. People try to call him racist over a crime bill half-written by black congressional leaders and loudly asked for by the black community.

          Biden has literally always been a stand up guy

          Calling out his busing stance as wrong when it was prescient and he was 100% correct about a generation of black educators losing their jobs is… An interesting take, to say the least.

          Maybe don’t get your news from rags

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        i hope you’re young because being ignorant of his very public stances against gay marriage; against gays in the military; pro-segregation and non-dischargeable student loan debt is the only way you can be excused from knowning and a 30 second google search will confirm that he still stands by those decisions. educate yourself.

        • BaroqueInMind
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          11 year ago

          Unfortunately I’m old. Can you please help me out by linking articles that support your statements, so I can read them and help you change my mind about him? Thank you.

          • @eldavi
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            21 year ago

            I’ve learned the hard way from Reddit that these kinds of requests will only result in my wasted time and it’s not my responsibility to educate you; use Google

            • BaroqueInMind
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              Hell yes, thank you. I’ll edit my comment if I read anything notable that I would like to ask you.

              Edit #1:

              when DOMA came up for a vote in the U.S. Senate on Sept. 10, 1996, Biden in his capacity representing Delaware in the U.S. Senate bowed to public sentiment at the time, voting in favor of the anti-gay law.

              Is the article implying that Biden is only voting in favor to ban gay marriage because he is succumbing to peer pressure?

              Edit# 2: damn it dude, this article makes me sad that Bernie got shafted. Thanks.

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              But the truth matters. Biden’s views on same-sex marriage have never been cutting-edge. When majorities opposed it, so did he. Once support for same-sex marriage became the mainstream Democratic position, Biden adopted it.

              Okay I see, so he’s a two-faced politician who doesn’t understand the full picture. It’s all coming together now why certain groups within the Left don’t like him.

              So you have me on your side now. What options do we have in the next election cycle?

              • @eldavi
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                none since too many people support him completely out of ignorance of what he’s done and said; like you did.

                it’s mind blowing that there are literally videos of him doing shitty things that a 30 second google search will show you, but people will still refused to believe it; we’re no better than maga-ites

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                  we’re no better than maga-ites

                  Not true because this conversation between you and I have been sane, respectful, and you changed my mind with facts. They aren’t capable of this feat and will stagnate.

                  • @eldavi
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                    They aren’t capable of this feat and will stagnate.

                    my maga father changed his mind when presented with facts; also my exchanges with others; and all the downvotes in this same thread are reaffirming my suspicion that liberals and maga are the same.

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      While I agree with you, at least he’s behaving reasonably now. I don’t like all his decisions but I do like that many of the decisions are being delegated as they should be, and would re elect him against either of the two R frontrunners in a heartbeat. That’s not high praise, but I do think his administration is doing much better than I thought it would

      Edit: I’m surprised at the number of downvotes on the parent comment, they’re not exactly wrong.

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        for me: the permanent damage he’s done to my life was committed back in the 90’s/00’s and i would forgive him, but he still very publicly stands by his decisions against gay marriage, against gays in the military, pro-segregation and non-dischargeable student loan debt.

        • @[email protected]
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          You don’t have to like or support him to acknowledge what the government is doing. Hell, I can even acknowledge that Trump made a few good decisions.

          • @eldavi
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            i hate trump; but i do admit that some of his decisions have made my life much better

              • @eldavi
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                i hate them both at the same level. trump because he’s a racist ass hat and biden because he permanently fucked up my life.

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                  I guess I never asked, what exactly did he do that ruined your life? Hard to imagine something to put him on an equal level with the guy who filled the court which lead to the overturning of roe v Wade and the protection of businesses to allow discrimination and to end affirmative action.

                  • @eldavi
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                    he supported doma, dont-ask-dont-tell, and spearheaded permanent student loan debt.

                    so when i graduated high, school military service was not an option because because of don’t-ask-don’t-tell and my parents were migrant farm workers who had no provisions for me. so the only option left to me was to go to college where i racked up enough permanently undischargable student loan debt that grew exponentially between the 2008 and covid collapses thanks to biden’s student loan debt bill. I’ll be paying for it for the rest of my life as a result.

                    between 2008 and covid, i wanted to marry another immigrant who had no legal status and, thanks to doma, i couldn’t marry and sponsor him so he got deported. he moved on and got married when it was politically convenient for biden to decide that gay marriage was okay and i’m too old of an incouragable fart to date.

    • @assassin_aragorn
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      People change over time. Are all of your viewpoints the exact same as when you first paid attention to politics?

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        People change over time

        “people change” is a seemingly reasonable cover for that doesn’t work for him because he staunchly stands by his wrong decisions for decades until it’s politically convenient for him to “change” despite it impacting his own life and he’s done it for every single one of his decisions and only “changes” once there’s no political back lash.

        in ten years time (assuming he’s still alive) he’s going to back pedal on permanent student loan debt once an overwhelming majority of voters make it a core issue.