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That’s still not answering my question. But sure, let me frame it in a way that’s more relevant to the topic:
A bank robber points a gun at the teller and demands they hand over everything. The robber knows that tellers have access to an alarm that will call in support from outside the bank. The robber says, “if you press the alarm, I will kill every person in this building.” That’s not a threat, then?
It’s the same scenario that you’re presenting. Ukraine (the teller) was invaded as part of a “special military operation” (robbed), and the aggressor (the robber) suggested there would be violent consequences for involving NATO (the external entity) in its defense.
Instead, what if the robber had a knife and the teller had a gun visible in a holster? Would the teller telling the robber to just turn around and walk away be a warning, or a threat?
Surely you know the difference between a warning and a threat.
Quit with these BS metaphores.
The agressor was NATO that instigated a coup with the fascists as proxy.
They got most of the country they couldn’t leave the ethnic Russians in the east and south alone who didn’t want to live under the US chosen nazi regime and wanted to ethnic cleanse them.
Russia that out of defense from an existential threat which is NATO agressors in ukraine with nukes too close had to intervene.
Even then they didn’t ask much.
No NATO (neutrality) and self-determination for the east and not be attacked.
OC it’s never enough for NATO and the fascists.
Now they will get a rump state at most.
No east and no south.
They will be denazified an freed completely.
Cry all you want or throw the last kids in the meatgrinder.
That will not change it.
It’s almost day 1200 of a 3 day SMO. Is putin bad at counting?
Another one of those BS claims
You’re right. Putin himself never said 3 days. He said two weeks. So is he bad at counting?
Also if this is to fight off NATO aggression… Hear me out here. The soviet stock of armored vehicles is incredibly low due to lack of maintenance and manufacturing capabilities and of course all the smoking mishaps in Ukraine. They have to get ammo from best Korea because they used it all “denazifying” cities to rubble. A quarter of their navy has been promoted to submarines. You would think a good deterrence would be to project a strong image, not display massive incompetence.
There has never been a better time to invade Russia. And yet, nobody is doing it (except Ukraine lol).
Yes western media that says what Putin says.
You know those great media that said Russia is out of ammo and gas after 1 week.
Or no more missiles. They’re using washing machines and fighting with shovels! LOL
Ask NATO why they can’t follow production and are out of ammo against ONE country.
Hhaha what a buch of losers.
Keep believing your BS, no one is invading Russia.
All the clowns in the trap are dead.
Good riddance.
And now go away and go cry somewhere else, IDGAF about ex-ukraine.
If Ukraine is losing why does Russia keep exploding?
They have terrorism as a last resort.
How sad that they target a civilian train or some village.
Then again, they have been doing that for years in Donetsk.
Fascists have no honor.
And didn’t you hear me?
Go cry somewhere else. You will lose, like you will lose any argument and fascist lose every time.
OK obviously there are tons of civilians living in the bombers and oil refineries and ammo depots that Ukraine blows up, sure, I mean HOW. If they’re getting so thoroughly trounced in the war, how are things blowing up hundreds of kilometers over the border? What the air defense doing??
Thanks, that clears it up. The difference between a threat and a warning is determined by whether you support the imperialist nation issuing it. Got it.
American imperialism bad, thus existential threat.
Russian imperialism good, thus warnings of self-defence.
I choose to believe that any imperialism is bad in general and that the people of Ukraine are the most recent victims of a decades-long string of ideological and territorial proxy wars between two unscrupulous expansionist nations, but you do you.
You’re like Israel who think history starts from oct 7 when they were attacked for no reason.
Ignore the 40% of ethnic Russian ukranians being massacred by literal nazis for 8 years.
Not a peep from the west.
Where was the Mir/pece actions and boycott then?
Bunxh of hypocrites. Really not interested, had this discussion plenty of times.
You don’t need to put words in my mouth. I am capable of speaking for myself, using my actual opinions.
And like I said, I don’t support imperialists. I don’t support the US going around and “saving” other countries by destabilizing them and replacing their government with a capitalism-flavored “democracy”. I don’t support China building up poorer nations in exchange for long-term repayment and control over their ports of trade. And I don’t support Russia attempting to “liberate” the people of another country by launching a military offensive against said country.
Without exception, every time an imperialist nation uses its position to “assist” another country, it’s with ulterior motives for economic, territorial, or political gain of the nation. The only difference between America fucking with Vietnam and Russia fucking with Ukraine is the pretense in which they used to justify doing it.
you are wrong, also about China.
What if Russia couped Mexico or Canada?
It’s not Afghanistan or Irak is it?
ukraine is too close.
Nato imperialism has met its borders.
Russia doesn’t do that. There’s plenty US invasions and ‘saving’, not so for Russia or China
Nice fanfic, bro
don’t care
Get help.
don’t need help, having fun and laughing at your petty shit.