• Hogger85b
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    21 year ago

    For a minute I thought “our terms” you were British and thought we could get anywhere near the the sweet deal before. Margret Thatcher would be rolling in her grave for all we have up

    • @Jackthelad
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      41 year ago

      Thatcher hated the EU though, and would likely have been a Brexiteer had she still been around.

      • theinspectorst
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        1 year ago

        Thatcher actively campaigned Remain in 1975 and was a key architect of the EU’s single market during the 1980s - arguably her greatest and most far-reaching political achievement.

        • @Jackthelad
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          21 year ago

          Indeed. But she was a vehement opponent of the Maastricht Treaty, and opposed further EU integration the whole time she was in the House of Lords.

          Her Bruges speech in 1988 made it very clear what she thought about moves towards a more federal Europe.

          • @[email protected]
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            21 year ago

            Is it fair to say that her views on the EU were more nuanced than your original comments suggested?

            • @Jackthelad
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              11 year ago

              Not really. Because the EEC and the EU are very different entities.

                • @Jackthelad
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                  11 year ago

                  The EEC was an economic union, the EU is a political union.

                  • @[email protected]
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                    11 year ago

                    Is it possible to join one without the other? Can you join the EU, for example, without EEC membership?

          • theinspectorst
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            01 year ago

            It seems like a leap to believe that the architect of the single market would have supported the UK leaving the single market.

            Not all Eurosceptics became Brexiters. David Cameron, George Osborne, William Hague, Philip Hammond - all genuine and vocal critics of political aspects of the EU who voted and campaigned Remain.

            • @Jackthelad
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              11 year ago

              Who said anything about leaving the single market?

              You don’t have to be in the EU to be in the single market.

      • Hogger85b
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        11 year ago

        Maybe out of fedral (but actually think she would have had the sense to stay in and block things from inside), but she built common market so even if left full.on.eu at least we would have maybe have Norway option rather than this shaft hard Brexit