You are not born:

  • L - Lesbian
  • G - Gay
  • B - Black
  • T - Transgender

It is a sin to live as LGBT.

It is not God’s will.

But Jesus can change you.

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      4 months ago

      For gender dysphoria there have been studies suggesting that prenatal hormone exposure plays a role. Many also experience dysphoria specifically about their genitals, so it’s likely about more than just social gender constructs (probably also depends on the individual though), with at least some contributing factors already decided at birth.

      But yea, both gender and sexuality are very complex and there are bound to be environmental factors for both.

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        4 months ago

        Many also experience dysphoria specifically about their genitals, so it’s likely about more than just social gender constructs (probably also depends on the individual though), with at least some contributing factors already decided at birth.

        I mean, ultimately everything that goes on in your mind has a neurological component of some sort. I suspect with this, for example, the brain is structured to run body template A, but is piloting body template B and is basically throwing an error. I see no reason not to change the body to match the brain, especially since modifying the brain quickly heads into major ethical concerns and philosophical weirdness. I mean, ultimately the brain is you and the body is just a meat mech.

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        4 months ago

        same for sexuality. I didn’t say that pre-birth effects have no impact.

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      4 months ago

      I meant trans status, not gender. I don’t know that science has entirely determined the cause of trans status or that it’s social.

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          4 months ago

          Yeah, it just bothers me when people reject “you are not born LGBT” as though it’s somehow a bigoted opinion. I guess they hear “not born” and mentally substitute “it’s a choice.”

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              4 months ago

              I think most people who would agree with the phrase “you are not born LGBT” if you asked them to rank “agree”/“disagree” on a survey, and are not the kind of people who actively go around with an anti-LGBT agenda. Those with an anti-LGBT agenda obviously are the people who we hear saying this.

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              4 months ago

              No. I’m not aware of any evidence that one is born with the propensity to be LGBT. It’s well-known that it’s not a choice, but that is not the same as saying that you’re genetically predetermined to be LGBT. Twin studies disprove that.

              My understanding is that the current prevailing belief among psychologists is that sexual orientation develops during adolescence, and is either random or influenced in some way by one’s sexual exposure, but not necessarily in any obviously deterministic way.

              Any direct, unqualified statement of, “you are born different” is directly and completely wrong.

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                  4 months ago

                  I think you’re just being an ignorant fool. People are closeted and hate themselves because there is no choice to not be LGBT. Do you disagree with this? Do you think it’s a choice? Newsflash: it’s not.

                  Something can be both not a choice and not genetic.

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