• @fixed_point
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    People love their children in every country and culture. The counterexamples to this are very rare. The concern that people are abusing their children by neglecting to follow gender ideology is extremely naive.

    The fundamental issue with gender/trans ideology is this:

    If your male child tells you that he feels like a girl, what do you do?

    a. Stop loving him and tell him he is wrong.

    b. Tell him he is actually a girl in a boys body, and that he should change his body irreversibly and force other people to also tell him he’s a girl, even when they can clearly see that he’s not.

    c. Continue loving him but insist that he’s a boy, and should appreciate the way he was born. He may be an effeminate boy, or a gay boy (he might find out later), but at the end of the day still a boy.

    Let me assert that (a) never happens. What do you think is better for the boy in the long run? Having everyone maintain his delusions or learning early on to accept reality?

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      No counter examples are not rare. Go to a trailer park or the inner city. I’ve lived in both and there are plenty of parents who don’t give a fuck. You sound like you’re coming from a place of massive privilege to think that.

      Me thinking people are abusing their children because they demonize gender identity is naive, when it causes an increase in suicide in areas that suppress it? You need to do more research, again, what a narrow, privileged mindset.

      Lol, I love how massively skewed point B is. There’s no middle ground or nuance, we have to give sex changes to children. Jesus man.

      And point C is literally telling him his feelings aren’t valid and he’s wrong. You’re telling him to repress who he is, which is why LGBT suicide rates are way higher in religious areas.

      You said A never happens. You are dead wrong. I’ve seen it happen. Do any research on how religious people areas treat this. I know people from both the Mormon faith and Jehovas witnesses that have been fully shunned by their families for being gay or trans. It’s literally part of their doctrine. So you saying it never happens is beyond ignorant. You’re speaking about things you clearly know very little about, you come across as living in a boomer white suburba where everyone thinks the same and there is no diversity.

      Also, you end it all by calling his gender identity a delusion. Going back to the fact that you think being trans is a sickness. Just like people thought being gay was a sickness. It’s an ignorant take, like most of your comment. I don’t mean that as an insult or to be mean, it literally is ignorant, it’s coming from a place of little knowledge on the subject.

      Educate yourself, please. Here is one example from this year, you can Google hundreds.

      https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2023/may/09/jehovahs-witnesses-coming-out-lgbtq