• @A_AOP
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    411 months ago

    Electrofuel : great potential here I believe.

    In September 2022, Finnish company Q Power sold P2X Solutions a synthetic methane production unit to be delivered in 2024 in Harjavalta, Finland, next to its 20 MW green hydrogen production plant.

    More here : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrofuel

    • @eleitl
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      411 months ago

      The more interesting approach is synmethanol, particularly via electrosynthesis. Only half of energy density of gasoline, and suitable for fuel cells, including DMFCs.

      • @A_AOP
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        211 months ago

        Direct methanol fuel cells (DMFCs) still have low power densities … so maybe we should look at molten carbonate fuel cells or simple heat engines ? Anyway, synmethanol looks great !

        • @eleitl
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          211 months ago

          Haber-Bosch for fertilizer, Fischer-Tropsch for synfuel.

          But, really, we need something with mild conditions and preferably something directly electrosynthesis driven. Large potential for improvement in both.

            • @eleitl
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              11 months ago

              The Haber-Bosch approach to breaking the nitrogen triple bond takes a lot of energy in terms of high pressure and temperature which is not present in the product, hence wasted. Ammonia is a fertilizer either as gas or as ammonium nitrate, and too precious to burn.

              Another random fact: half of the combustion enthalpy present in liquid hydrogen has been spent on its liquification.