The share of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents who believe that President Joe Biden’s 2020 election win was not legitimate has ticked back up, according to a new CNN poll fielded throughout July. All told, 69% of Republicans and Republican-leaners say Biden’s win was not legitimate, up from 63% earlier this year and through last fall, even as there is no evidence of election fraud that would have altered the outcome of the contest.

  • @GiddyGap
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    81 year ago

    If a fraction of the remaining 30 percent of Republicans vote for Biden or does not vote, Biden will win in a landslide in a rematch with Trump.

    • @[email protected]
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      1 year ago

      Trump’s gonna be in a cell and probably disqualifies from running for public office.

      Never would have believed it until the latest charged dropped. Now I really think so

      Wish we had a Remind Me! bot over here 😁

      • @orclev
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        111 year ago

        Sadly it’s not actually against the rules to run for president from jail or even prison technically. There’s even historical precident, although nobody running from jail has ever actually won.

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          41 year ago

          Section 3 of the 14th Amendment:

          No person shall be a Senator or Representative in Congress, or elector of President and Vice-President, or hold any office, civil or military, under the United States, or under any State, who, having previously taken an oath, as a member of Congress, or as an officer of the United States, or as a member of any State legislature, or as an executive or judicial officer of any State, to support the Constitution of the United States, shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same, or given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. But Congress may by a vote of two-thirds of each House, remove such disability.

          He very well could be barred from running based on the latest indictment.

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            They could (and probably will) argue that even if he’s being tried for insurrection he hasn’t been convicted yet and therefore is eligible to run. If he does win it’s questionable what would happen. I’m sure he would argue as a sitting president he was immune from prosecution and therefore that the case has to be dropped. Assuming that doesn’t work he could try to pardon himself, but that’s much shakier ground. Technically if you accept a pardon you’re admitting guilt, so he would be barred from office, but if he’s already in office what then?

          • @Riccosuave
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            01 year ago

            I’ve posted this multiple times before, but I will post it again. It would take a completely novel interpretation of the 14th Ammendment to bar him from office based on the existing charges that have been filled in the Washington DC indictment. He was not charged with:

            • Treason
            • Sedition
            • Aiding or Inciting an Insurrection

            Therefore, he can and will continue to run for office regardless of whether he is convicted and imprisoned. This is wishful thinking that does not bare up to scrutiny based on any credible legal interpretations that I have seen. If you have evidence to the contrary I am certainly open to the idea, but nothing I have personally seen suggests this would be the case.

      • @doggle
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        11 year ago

        Is it likely that the cases will progress that quickly? I was under the impression that he wouldn’t likely have a trial until next year, and wouldn’t be convicted/sentenced until after the election