The share of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents who believe that President Joe Biden’s 2020 election win was not legitimate has ticked back up, according to a new CNN poll fielded throughout July. All told, 69% of Republicans and Republican-leaners say Biden’s win was not legitimate, up from 63% earlier this year and through last fall, even as there is no evidence of election fraud that would have altered the outcome of the contest.

  • @Coreidan
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    171 year ago

    Education in America is absolute dog shit

    • MasterOBee Master/King
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      11 year ago

      It is, but I don’t know why. We have the most public funding per full time student in the world…that money’s getting lost somewhere, I assume the administration level of schools.

      • @Coreidan
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        121 year ago

        Funding is drastically different from area to area. You go to a rich white area and the schools are top notch.

        You go to a poor area with lots of minorities and there is hardly any funding.

        The schools that need funding don’t get it. Inequality like most things in America is the reason. It’s by design to keep the poor in their seats.

        • MasterOBee Master/King
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          Funding is drastically different from area to area. You go to a rich white area and the schools are top notch.

          It is but even title 1 schools get great funding compared to other nations.

          It’s not that we spend 60k on rich white students and 0 on poor minority students and average 30k/student.

          Spending has not correlated with good education, so spending isn’t the solution we would hope for.

          The schools that need funding don’t get it. Inequality like most things in America is the reason. It’s by design to keep the poor in their seats.

          I agree, schools are the most segregated since we literally had segregation. Our school system, the funding, the demographics and our approach has all been a failure, but the lefts solution is to throw more money at it rather than actually addressing issues.

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            Spending has not correlated with good education, so spending isn’t the solution we would hope for.

            Ok but it’s pretty clear that lack of budget is correlated to poor education. You have to be disconnected from reality to say it isn’t. That sounds like some conservative talking point to me.

            • MasterOBee Master/King
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              Ok but it’s pretty clear that lack of budget is correlated to poor education. You have to be disconnected from reality to say it isn’t. That sounds like some conservative talking point to me.

              I mean someone that has $0 spent on their education is clearly not going to have enough resources to get a reasonable education, but we’re not talking about that, so why even try to argue that?

              We spend more than any other country, more than our peer countries by about 34%, yet our education system is crap. So my argument, that you can’t just throw money at schools and expect them to get better, is factual.

              Saying any criticism about government organizations isn’t inherently conservative, it’s just reality.

              • @Coreidan
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                21 year ago

                Show me a school in a poor area that out performs schools in rich areas.

                I think you’re the type that is happy to defund schools because you think it has no impact on education quality. A conservative view point.

                • MasterOBee Master/King
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                  You want me to pick two schools in the whole united states to compare their demographics and if the lower income school does better it proves my point?

                  How bout this, I’ve shown proof and a source that shows how much we’re spending in schools and how much other countries are spending, all provided by the OECD, a very reliable organization.

                  How about you provide any source showing that with low income schools we don’t provide the funding per full time student comparable to other countries, and/or that education proficiency is directly related to spending.

                  I think you’re the type that is happy to defund schools

                  Once again, you’re thinking is wrong. I explained to you exactly what the OECD said - that we spend more per FTE than any of our peer countries, and by a substantial amount. Did I say I wanted to defund schools? No, I said that we can’t keep throwing money at the system and expect it to be fixed. See this is what you do, you don’t have any sources, statistics or any information, you just think any criticism of a government organization is a ‘conservative viewpoint’ and therefore baseless.

                  I provided sources to back up my claim, you should do the same or I don’t want to waste time on you.

                  • @Coreidan
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                    11 year ago

                    No I’m not wasting my time on someone that thinks defunding education is a good idea. Don’t you have a trump rally to be at?

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                All that money goes to shareholders in the private businesses which are used as contractors in the public school system. Just as with healthcare where Americans pay up to three times as much per capita compared to countries with universal healthcare, it all goes into the pockets of middlemen as profit.

                In other comparable countries this doesn’t happen because they aren’t relying on private contractors, instead they have more money actually going to education than the US.

                • MasterOBee Master/King
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                  What private contractors are taking up the school funding? If that’s true, sounds like a fundamental problem with our education system, that throwing more money at the problem won’t solve.

                  • @Techmaster
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                    11 year ago

                    McGraw Hill, Pearson, Scholastic, Houghton Mifflin, etc…