• El Barto
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    61 year ago

    The windows analogy is almost there.

    It’s more like, you pay for windows home edition, which would take up 24gb in your 128gb hard drive. But nope, it’s actually taking up 89gb. Why? Because it has all the features of Windows Ultimate edition, all locked away, taking up precious space in a hard drive that you’ve paid for.

    • @[email protected]
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      11 year ago

      Most softwares work this way. You download the full thing. Your subscription level dictate what feature you can use.

      • El Barto
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        11 year ago

        Maybe today. That was not always the case. Especially software that attempts ti thwart piracy.

        E.g. music packages.

    • @[email protected]
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      -51 year ago

      So you’re worried about the hard disk space in your car ? Can you even access that as an end-user?

      • @[email protected]
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        21 year ago

        No, he’s saying that’s all the components are included to use this feature adding weight to the car and affecting your fuel (or in this case battery) milage, but you can’t use them without paying.

        • @[email protected]
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          11 year ago

          What components are adding weight? AFAIK the components used by FSD are already in use by other features.

          • El Barto
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            11 year ago

            I’m not specifically talking about FSD, and if that is the case, then cool.

            But when it’s shit like heated seats, then that’s bullshit. If you ever need to replace your seats, they will make you pay for the expensive model - with that disabled feature.

            Anyway. Regardless, I’ll never buy a car with disabled features unless I pay a subscription.

            • @[email protected]
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              21 year ago

              I’m not specifically talking about FSD

              But I am.

              But when it’s shit like heated seats, then that’s bullshit

              I agree, as I said here

        • @[email protected]
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          11 year ago

          Sure, but your analogy doesn’t make any sense. There is no downside to you because of this feature being in your car in a disabled state.

          • El Barto
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            11 year ago

            That was my analogy, not of the person you replied for.

            Disabled features also add complexity to your car, which may or may not affect how much you pay for repairs.

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            It’s not my analogy, but it does make sense if you even remotely think about it. The downside is that my car carries extra weight in the form of this additional hardware. Teslas are heavy enough as-is with their giant batteries, I’d rather remove any and all unnecessary weight for the sake of my tire tread life (and battery life). Also depending on exactly what the hardware is, it can be an additional point of failure that could potentially cause things that I do have access to to break. Lastly, it’s fair to assume that the price of the car would be cheaper if Tesla didn’t have to install this hardware into every car even if it will never be used, so you are likely already paying for this in “hidden” costs that are just rolled into the total price of the car before even paying to enable the features.

            • @[email protected]
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              11 year ago

              The downside is that my car carries extra weight in the form of this additional hardware.

              No it doesn’t. As far as I know FSD doesn’t require additional hardware. It uses the hardware already in the car for other purposes (like lane assist, emergency braking, etc).

              • @[email protected]
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                11 year ago

                FSD isn’t the only feature locked behind a paywall.

                They lock up everything from heated seats to acceleration speed.