Wow, a thick one. Okay, let me really break it down for you.
The answer is that you don’t matter, and sitting in a car does not make you more important that a person sitting on a bike or a person sitting in another car. They do not need or have to “get out of your way”.
I’m all for building out infrastructure for bikes and teaching car brains to share the road, but this isn’t sharing. It’s a slow moving vehicle monopolizing the road rather than sharing it.
It’s no different than pedestrians on the sidewalk making room for faster walkers to go by. It costs you nothing to be more accommodating to other people’s needs. There should be at least one bypass lane when there are this many lanes.
It just makes sense for efficiency since the faster moving vehicles will clear the road more quickly when infrastructure is available for their use.
It actually makes a great case for having bike lanes as this would reserve infrastructure for the separate uses without making a value judgment about who’s more important or whatever the fuck you’re on about.
If it was a single-file road, and there was a bus carrying all those cyclists (“slow, monopolizing vehicle”), would you expect it to stop on the sideroad and let the traffic pass, whenever a car approaches from behind?
The comment I’m replying to, called the large group of people using the road “entitled” for not letting cars pass for “efficiency”.
I never once said they needed to or had to move out of the way. That’s something you invented.
Sharing the road goes both ways. In this video, where exactly is that happening? The bikes are taking up two lanes. The cars are in one, other than the douche nozzle.
No one is claiming entitlement or right of way, just pointing out that common courtesy seems to be a one-way expectation here.
If “sharing” only ever means cars yield, cyclists don’t, that’s not sharing, it’s just selective outrage.
“Sharing” would mean each cyclist can take up as much space as one car.
Your shitcan that you usually drive alone takes up as much space as 6 cyclists.
Why do the 6 cyclists have to yeld so you can get past? If you look at the video, they’re so tightly packed that there isn’t even anywhere to yield. They would literally have to slow down just so you can pass in your tin can.
“Common courtesy” for you is slow down, move over so I can pass? Lmao
Jesus fucking christ carbrains are brain-rotten to shit.
If “sharing” only ever means cars yield, cyclists don’t, that’s not sharing, it’s just selective outrage.
You can’t even differentiate between “yielding” and “being in traffic”!
Sharing has never meant equal square metres. It means coexisting without unnecessarily obstructing others when alternatives exist.
No one said six cyclists “have to yield”. No one said they need to vanish. And no one said cars deserve priority. You keep inventing those claims because they’re easier to argue than what’s actually being discussed.
Sometimes sharing does mean briefly adjusting speed or position so traffic can flow. Cars do it for each other constantly. That doesn’t magically become oppression when the other road user is on a bike.
@Rambomst@MrSmith Have you ever ridden a bicycle in a large group? The first time I did I was pretty surprised by how challenging it is. It’s especially difficult to maintain safe distances within a tightly packed peloton if there’s a mix of more and less experienced riders. Changing the shape of the pack is a lot less easy and safe than it might look like to someone who hasn’t ridden a bike in a group like that.
taking up the whole road seems pretty entitled on the cyclists part.
How is it that you sitting comfortably alone in your shitbox, that hogs 6x as much space, shits out toxic fumes, are less “entitled” than a large group of cyclists?
They are doing their thing, obviously in some sort of official (or otherwise) event. They do not need, or have to to let a fatso in a steel cage go by.
I’m okay with drivers asking to go past, as a driver (and a cyclist) I often do myself by flashing lights once. If they do not move over I resume being in traffic as I’m not entitled to shit and I’m sharing the road with others.
Lol. Are you okay?
We aren’t talking about a typical traffic jam, only what’s shown in the video.
Wow, a thick one. Okay, let me really break it down for you.
The answer is that you don’t matter, and sitting in a car does not make you more important that a person sitting on a bike or a person sitting in another car. They do not need or have to “get out of your way”.
I’m all for building out infrastructure for bikes and teaching car brains to share the road, but this isn’t sharing. It’s a slow moving vehicle monopolizing the road rather than sharing it.
It’s no different than pedestrians on the sidewalk making room for faster walkers to go by. It costs you nothing to be more accommodating to other people’s needs. There should be at least one bypass lane when there are this many lanes.
It just makes sense for efficiency since the faster moving vehicles will clear the road more quickly when infrastructure is available for their use.
It actually makes a great case for having bike lanes as this would reserve infrastructure for the separate uses without making a value judgment about who’s more important or whatever the fuck you’re on about.
This guy gets it.
If it was a single-file road, and there was a bus carrying all those cyclists (“slow, monopolizing vehicle”), would you expect it to stop on the sideroad and let the traffic pass, whenever a car approaches from behind?
The comment I’m replying to, called the large group of people using the road “entitled” for not letting cars pass for “efficiency”.
It’s like complaining about bus lanes.
Wow, a thick one.
I never once said they needed to or had to move out of the way. That’s something you invented.
Sharing the road goes both ways. In this video, where exactly is that happening? The bikes are taking up two lanes. The cars are in one, other than the douche nozzle.
No one is claiming entitlement or right of way, just pointing out that common courtesy seems to be a one-way expectation here.
If “sharing” only ever means cars yield, cyclists don’t, that’s not sharing, it’s just selective outrage.
“Sharing” would mean each cyclist can take up as much space as one car.
Your shitcan that you usually drive alone takes up as much space as 6 cyclists.
Why do the 6 cyclists have to yeld so you can get past? If you look at the video, they’re so tightly packed that there isn’t even anywhere to yield. They would literally have to slow down just so you can pass in your tin can.
“Common courtesy” for you is slow down, move over so I can pass? Lmao
Jesus fucking christ carbrains are brain-rotten to shit.
You can’t even differentiate between “yielding” and “being in traffic”!
Sharing has never meant equal square metres. It means coexisting without unnecessarily obstructing others when alternatives exist.
No one said six cyclists “have to yield”. No one said they need to vanish. And no one said cars deserve priority. You keep inventing those claims because they’re easier to argue than what’s actually being discussed.
Sometimes sharing does mean briefly adjusting speed or position so traffic can flow. Cars do it for each other constantly. That doesn’t magically become oppression when the other road user is on a bike.
@Rambomst @MrSmith Have you ever ridden a bicycle in a large group? The first time I did I was pretty surprised by how challenging it is. It’s especially difficult to maintain safe distances within a tightly packed peloton if there’s a mix of more and less experienced riders. Changing the shape of the pack is a lot less easy and safe than it might look like to someone who hasn’t ridden a bike in a group like that.
Momentum as well.
Imagine having to slow down to the back of the pack to let a dude in a car go back and going back up to your position.
With every single car.
Let me quote you:
How is it that you sitting comfortably alone in your shitbox, that hogs 6x as much space, shits out toxic fumes, are less “entitled” than a large group of cyclists?
They are doing their thing, obviously in some sort of official (or otherwise) event. They do not need, or have to to let a fatso in a steel cage go by.
I’m okay with drivers asking to go past, as a driver (and a cyclist) I often do myself by flashing lights once. If they do not move over I resume being in traffic as I’m not entitled to shit and I’m sharing the road with others.
Sharing means no priority over others.